Beatles Kids

[thenry]

Dhani Harrison new album - thefearofmissingout- to be released this month. What do you reckon to Julian Lennon, Zak Starkey, James McCartney and Dhani Harrison as the new super band ?

[tonyav]

I don't.

[NOX]

No nor me, that'd just be a gimmick- if the kids are genuinely talented they'll do their own thing.

[sir.prize]

thenry - are you still drunk as a skunk?

[thenry]

No! Bet that's a sur prise !

[bazwillrun]

If it wasnt for their parentage, based on what i have heard not one of them would be making a living as songwriters/musicians.

The radio stations will be playing their material purely becasue of who the are and their connections.

The only time they even reach average is when they copy and sound like their parents, as soon as they stray from that comfort zone their as forgettable as forgettable can be.

As for Starkey, well the Beatles would still have been famous whatever drummer they had, so I'm sure Zak will make a good living off his dads name.

Dont start me off on drummer jokes !

[sfby]

No idea about the others' talents, but Zac Starkey is a fantastic drummer - he's played with The Who many times & is almost a replacement for Moony!

Beats me where he gets it from....

[ludwig]

There's a clip of the Beatles at a press conference being asked 'Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?'
I think it's George that replies, 'He isn't even the best drummer in the Beatles'.

[Kiki-frog]

Not a chance. Although Julian and Sean Lennon are both superb musicians.

[andy-hughes]

Zac Starkey is indeed a wonderful drummer who can stand up with any of his peers as a technical musician.

Rigno is a vastly underrated musician - he brought the backbeat style of drumming to an audience who would otherwise have remained ignorant of it, and his playing is the rock of all the Beatles' songs, from the earliest to the last.

Along with the rest of the band, his craft evolved as the band developed, and he was in no way left behind by their expansion as writers and artists.

It's easy to mock his apparently simple style, but ask anyone who actually plays drums, and they will tell you that those simple beats are the very hardst to play well - you need an inbuilt metronone, and by no means every drummer has one.

[ludwig]

// Ringo is a vastly underrated musician //

I agree Andy. There's alot of lazy and unjust criticism made about him.
I wasn't saying I agree with Georges joke above, I just thought it was funny.

I don't want to see four Beatle kids in a band. Even if they're any good it would be difficult to not let the sheer gimmickiness of it detract from anything they might do.

[jno]

I think it was John rather than George (well, it would be), but I believe he was serious: Paul was said to be a very good drummer. I've never heard him, so can't say, but presumably John had.

[ludwig]

McCartney was a decent drummer, and I believe played on some of the later Beatles tracks as well as his first solo albums, so it be him the comment alluded to.

I think it was George because I seem to remember Lennon laughing in reaction to the comment along with the others after it was made. I could be wrong though.

[andy-hughes]

ludwig - absolutely understood, I appreciuate that you dont share the general sniping at Ringo as a musician.

jno - if you have heard this song - then you have heard Paul drumming, and he is perfectly adequate on this showing. i think it was just John's sense of humour, which, as often happens, was taken too literally - although Ringo knew what he meant, and often re-quoted the remark with a big smile.

The Ballad Of John And Yoko was knocked off in a spare afternoon by John and Paul - George was on holiday, and Ringo was away filming The Magic Christian, so, as two premier musicians can do, they played lead and rhythm guitars and bass and drums respectively, both sang, and here is the result.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t3oaPNJieg

[andy-hughes]

Oh - and Paul played piano as well!

[Sipowicz]

It was John.
http://www.amiright.com/quotes/beatles.shtml

[ludwig]

^ and some surprising guitar parts - like the solo on Taxman, and the main guitar on Sgt Pepper (the track).

[jno]

thanks for that, andy. Shame the person who put together the video showed Ringo drumming, but I suppose he could only work with the clips he had.

[ludwig]

// It was John. //

Yep, as jno said - it would be.

[dotty.]

watching the you tube vid there it just struck me, were The Beatles the first group/band/artists to have a logo of their name? I know Bread did it much later and Carpenters, but when did that idea first start? proper graphic designed name on drums/ LP covers etc.

[jno]

hm

VG question, dotty.