engagement ring

[neil_loves_marie]

is it true that if a man buys a woman an engagement ring and they split before they wed does the ring belong the man and can claim it back legally due to the significance of the ring??

this is what ive heard and would like it clarified off someone that may know about the law surrounding this

[Mosaic]

I doubt it. A gift is a gift. It used to be the case that engagement - hence the ring - had a legal status and ditching your bird was actionable, especially if you had 'used' her (oh the phraseology!) thereby 'ruining' her. But not any more.

[NoMercy]

You can't love Marie that much if you want the ring back!!

[bibblebub]

Judge Judy always give the engagement ring back to the man.

[neil_loves_marie]

oh no its not for me, im just trying to clarify something for sum1.

i love marie to bits and glad i married her as no1 else has ever made me this happy before.

i thought it strange when my friend mentioned it to me but wanted to try clarify it

[neil_loves_marie]

bibble - i thought along those sort of lines as its technically not a gift is it in the same way as a wedding ring isn't a gift.

but weren't sure

[bednobs]

JJ (best prog in the world by the way) judge judy always says that if a ring is given in contemplation of marriage and the marriage doesn't go ahead, the ring goes back. However, that is american.

[Mosaic]

This is interesting:
http://uk.ask.com/que...p-the-engagement-ring
as is this
http://www.contractsa...gement-contracts.html

[losgigs]

I phoned Citizens Advice Bureau recently to try and find answer to this, being the parent of son in this situation. Was told that it's a fuzzy area, but a gift is a gift and therefore technically belongs to the recipient ie the girl. However, if the girl returns the ring willingly, then obviously there's no problem. It's a tricky one, with no clear-cut answer. Thankfully my son's situation has been resolved.

[losgigs]

Sorry, Mosaic, didn't see your answer before I posted. Your links seem to answer the question nicely.

[Mosaic]

I think we crossed on the stairs....
'bread and cheese'
always used to say that....

[NoMercy]

Traditionally, if the man breaks it off, the lady keeps the ring. If the lady breaks it off, she's supposed to give the ring back.

[neil_loves_marie]

sorted, has she broke with him i shall tell him this and hopefully he can porn it in and claw some of the money back he spent on it.

if she refuses to give it back does he go to police and report it or does it have to be done civil?

[NoMercy]

Goes to the Police?? Are you being serious?

If he gives her a ring, he GIVES it to her!!

F.f.s.

[vodkancoke]

"porn it in"?? No wonder she left him!

[Bambiagain]

I doubt if the police would be interested, since the ring is considered a gift (see the links above). Although tradition plays a part, I don't know whether it'S possible to enforce the tradition.

[DTCwordfan]

he (you?) would be the laughing stock of the cop shop. "Eee oop lad, I'll gi yer three carrots fer that."

It is hers - you gave it to her in good faith and, as such, it is a gift. A good percentage of gals do give them back as they want no association with the ex......

[neil_loves_marie]

but in my eyes its not a gift but it is a gift.

when i bought my wife's engagement ring and we got married, those rings weren't gifts was they??

[tenrec]

neil, of course the rings are gifts. What planet are you from?

[vodkancoke]

I gave mine back (bl00dy wish i hadn't though!) just because I didn't want any reminders. I doubt he has a leg to stand on legally.

[neil_loves_marie]

its not mine, and the thing that bugs him is that close to 2 years later she still wears it and flashes it around to everyone!!!

this isn't what you actually do is it?