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I have had a mailshot from a company called Wallshield. I think this is where they spray some sort resin type composite on to your external walls and among other things it makes a smooth finish on pebble dash. Does anyone have any experience of this and what it costs (psm)?
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Logically: walls are not intended to be sealed like clingfilm. You need air to gently percolate (as it does) through buildings to prevent damp and fungal growth. If you seal the outside of the wall (if this were possible) then you'll seal in damp and slow down any drying out.
If you have a damp issue, you need to locate why that's happening - cracks in wallls? Gutter / roof issues? heating / humidity / ventilation issues?
Why would you want an additonal coat of anything sprayed onto your pebbledash - if the pebbledash is dropping off or cracked, the only remedy is to remove it and refinish the brickworl either with new pebbledash or render.
Questions to ask the form: how do they seal the outside wby spraying something on? if yhey don't coat every nook and cranny then damp will get behind the coating.
Q2: what is the coating? what is it's chemical composition and will it trigger allergic reaction used ini the quantity implied, surrounding me in my house?
Q3: how long have you been trading, what guarantees do I have and how are these guarantees upheld?
I'd keep a tight fist around my cash on this one. Get a good traditional survey of your outside walls by a reputable tradesman - preferably someone whose work you've seen elsewhere.
If you have a damp issue, you need to locate why that's happening - cracks in wallls? Gutter / roof issues? heating / humidity / ventilation issues?
Why would you want an additonal coat of anything sprayed onto your pebbledash - if the pebbledash is dropping off or cracked, the only remedy is to remove it and refinish the brickworl either with new pebbledash or render.
Questions to ask the form: how do they seal the outside wby spraying something on? if yhey don't coat every nook and cranny then damp will get behind the coating.
Q2: what is the coating? what is it's chemical composition and will it trigger allergic reaction used ini the quantity implied, surrounding me in my house?
Q3: how long have you been trading, what guarantees do I have and how are these guarantees upheld?
I'd keep a tight fist around my cash on this one. Get a good traditional survey of your outside walls by a reputable tradesman - preferably someone whose work you've seen elsewhere.
My aim is to improve the appearance of the house. I just looked at their website and it seems to be a genuine operation. As messi says these types of operation make more out of selling finance than they do out the product but that does not make them crooks. Even Ford dealers do it. I dont take decisions lightly and will never take the first, even second quote. Push them down as far as you think they will go then pay by cash. I had my house reglazed for £16000 from the first quite of £56000, reduced to £28000 if I signed on the spot! I take mosaic's comments on board but the company do not seems to be fraudsters. I really need a comment from somenone whose had it done.
Oh Lordy - so you've already made your mind up.
Then do a search on Wallshield problems and see what shows up.
My concern would be that it is an over-elaborate solution at an over-elaborate price. Forget the bit about 'I knocked them down from £x to £x/4 so I must be getting a bargain' - at the end of the day it is a resin-based material that perhapos costs about £150 in materials and the rest is labour and profit.
Here's one do get you started: -
http://www.ultimateha...wall-paint-t8696.html
Then do a search on Wallshield problems and see what shows up.
My concern would be that it is an over-elaborate solution at an over-elaborate price. Forget the bit about 'I knocked them down from £x to £x/4 so I must be getting a bargain' - at the end of the day it is a resin-based material that perhapos costs about £150 in materials and the rest is labour and profit.
Here's one do get you started: -
http://www.ultimateha...wall-paint-t8696.html
When we were young and newly wed, we went to the Ideal Home Show and got talked into getting a quote for this. The guy seemed to spend forever in our house and when he finally got around to telling us the price, he mumbled it so quickly we were unsure what he had said, anyway we had already decided that it was going to be a no, said so and he left. When he had gone, we both looked at each other and said 'how much do you think he said was the price and we both agreed that it had sounded like 16K, but thought that it couldn't possibly be anywhere near that figure. So we will never know, but we are much more savvy about things like this now. Sorry I know this doesn't help you, but just wanted to share my little story :)
ok, you have convinced me! Many previously roughcast houses have had it done round here and they look stunning. If what you all say is correct it will be falling off in 10 years and I will be thousands of pounds poorer. I will get it painted instead.
BTW, On reflection I think my windows were nearer 10k than 16k which I mentioned earlier.
BTW, On reflection I think my windows were nearer 10k than 16k which I mentioned earlier.
Coming round to my original point: the only way round pebbledash that's cracked and coming off is to remove and re-finish. It may sound expensive but it will still be there in 50 years time, if done correctly.
Wallshield has raised enough problems in the few years it's been around - part being the business model that the franchisees work to.
Wallshield has raised enough problems in the few years it's been around - part being the business model that the franchisees work to.
If lots of other houses near you have it then I would go knock on their doors to see if they are happy and how long ago they had it done. Then you can see if it looks like it will last longer than 10 years and if on reflection the people are glad they had it done or feel it was a rip off. Also I would certainly do as builders-mate says and do as much web research as I could first. If you are happy with all that and can afford to spend the money then you go for it. If it is the same company that we had a quote from many years ago then it will certainly make a sizeable dent in your bank balance.
I expect johnny37 has decided whether to use Wallshield or not by now but others may find this useful. I had my Tyrolean rendered walls treated with Wallshield about 20 years ago as I was quite impressed with the claims made then for the product. Wallshield lived up to all the claims made for it and has lasted well and looked good all this time.
I have recently had to have one wall re-rendered because the rendering had blown and this means I am now going to redecorate all the walls. On inspection I have found that there are now a few small patches where the Wallshield is starting to crack and come away so I have to do a little making good before I can paint the walls. I have kept the drum with unused Wallshield left behind by the Wallshield people in my garage all this time and I've stirred it and it still appears to be workable. I'm now considering using this to make good the Wallshield by applying it with a filling knife or maybe a brush as it should dry with the same textured appearance as the remainder of the Wallshield surface and hopefully wont show when painted over.
By the way, according to the Wallshield website the product is microporous and allows the walls to breath. Whether it was microporous 20 years ago I dont know but I think it has still lasted well.
I have recently had to have one wall re-rendered because the rendering had blown and this means I am now going to redecorate all the walls. On inspection I have found that there are now a few small patches where the Wallshield is starting to crack and come away so I have to do a little making good before I can paint the walls. I have kept the drum with unused Wallshield left behind by the Wallshield people in my garage all this time and I've stirred it and it still appears to be workable. I'm now considering using this to make good the Wallshield by applying it with a filling knife or maybe a brush as it should dry with the same textured appearance as the remainder of the Wallshield surface and hopefully wont show when painted over.
By the way, according to the Wallshield website the product is microporous and allows the walls to breath. Whether it was microporous 20 years ago I dont know but I think it has still lasted well.
I have lived in our 1938 house since 1977 (35 years). The outside walls are rendered and were painted white. I had the walls painted 3 times in the first 28 years, average about £1,000 plus gutter and fascia cleaning (UPVC).
In 2005 (7 years ago) I had The Wallshield Company treat the outside walls for £13,183 (first price: £23,059 second price: £16,479) because I agreed to have it done as soon as possible - the next week!
The two guys that did the job took 5 cold and wet days in January 2005, the amount of repair work to be done to the rendering was far less than the 'surveyor' had said, he had also said it would be two 'teams' and would probably take two weeks!
The finished job looked good AND it was 'guaranteed' for 15 years against chipping, flaking or peeling.
April 2010 I receive a letter telling me that Wallshield Limited is in "Creditors' Voluntary Liquidation".
Earlier this year I noticed 2 largish areas where the coating has lifted off the sidewall, another area which is flaking on the back-wall, and yesterday another area which is lifting on the front-wall. Hence I am online again to see if I can resolve this issue under the 15 year guarantee - a wall coating costing £13,183 lasting only 7 years - that is less than the £1,000 paint jobs I had previously had.
SAVE YOUR MONEY AND AVOID WALLSHIELD and probably other similar wall coating companies.
In 2005 (7 years ago) I had The Wallshield Company treat the outside walls for £13,183 (first price: £23,059 second price: £16,479) because I agreed to have it done as soon as possible - the next week!
The two guys that did the job took 5 cold and wet days in January 2005, the amount of repair work to be done to the rendering was far less than the 'surveyor' had said, he had also said it would be two 'teams' and would probably take two weeks!
The finished job looked good AND it was 'guaranteed' for 15 years against chipping, flaking or peeling.
April 2010 I receive a letter telling me that Wallshield Limited is in "Creditors' Voluntary Liquidation".
Earlier this year I noticed 2 largish areas where the coating has lifted off the sidewall, another area which is flaking on the back-wall, and yesterday another area which is lifting on the front-wall. Hence I am online again to see if I can resolve this issue under the 15 year guarantee - a wall coating costing £13,183 lasting only 7 years - that is less than the £1,000 paint jobs I had previously had.
SAVE YOUR MONEY AND AVOID WALLSHIELD and probably other similar wall coating companies.
I used this company, and paid a lot of money(over 30 thousand pounds), which I thought was worth it (I have quite a large house), mainly due to the long guarantee it comes with.
After 1 year, there are lots of issues with it, but couldn't do a thing about it due to company being liquidated....
....the thing is, they are still trading, and a little research shows they have a history of liquidations, and a trail of people with worthless guarantees.
Basically, the whole set up is a scam as far as I can work out. Whether what they are doing is technically illegal I am not sure, it might be they are abusing the rules of how companies are allowed to operate, either way, I would avoid this company at all costs.
After 1 year, there are lots of issues with it, but couldn't do a thing about it due to company being liquidated....
....the thing is, they are still trading, and a little research shows they have a history of liquidations, and a trail of people with worthless guarantees.
Basically, the whole set up is a scam as far as I can work out. Whether what they are doing is technically illegal I am not sure, it might be they are abusing the rules of how companies are allowed to operate, either way, I would avoid this company at all costs.
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