Barabbas

[Whickerman]

According to gospel, Jesus Barabbas (literally "Jesus, Son of the Father") was released, and Jesus, King of the Jews was crucified. Taken in a different light, is there any reason to still believe that resurrection took place, or were the early writers referring to two different men before and after the execution?

[Lonnie]

I'll leave this one to Clanad.

[maxi29]

Why do you think Barrabbas was called Jesus? All four gospels mention him, yet none give him this name.

I'm not saying that you're wrong but what's the source?

[Whickerman]

Matthew 27:17

Just google 'Jesus Barabbas' and see

[maxi29]

Matthew 21:17 (King James version) says "Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will you that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ.?" No mention there of Barabbas being called Jesus.

You shouldn't believe everything you read on the Internet. :-)

[Octavius]

See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barabbas

[Whickerman]

Just FYI - Jesus is the same name as Joshua, so it's not an uncommon name.

[Whickerman]

http://www.mainstreambaptistnetwork.org/MBN%20Journals/ApMay2004/Ap04BarabbasorJesus.htm

http://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_barabbas.htm

Hope these help clear up the name, but if anyone has any opinion on the question asked I'd really be interested

[mimififi]

are you suggesting that a ressurrection didn't take place but that the jesus who was spoken to and interacted with after the crucifixtion was the chap you refer to as jesus barabbas?

If this is what you are suggesting. how? Surely if barabbas had been freed, he wouldn't have hung around to impersonate the person who was crucified in his place. And the explanation of the empty tomb is a bit tricky too. Also, Jesus was known to his friends, if it had been someone else, do you not think doubting Thoms would have said " 'ere, I saw you die, where are your wounds? and you look alot like that other bloke we saw with jolly pontius!" Rather, thomas put his hands in the crucifixtion wounds.

I'm not sure Ive got your question right, and I apologise if I have misread it ('i'm very tired, been up all last night with a coughing baby. SOrry!)

[mimififi]

barabbas was also a known criminal; unlikely he'd get taken up to heaven on a cloud.

I read your links, and don't find them to be entirely objective. I think their sole purpose is to undermine the scripture and promote Islam. In my reading of the gospels, at no time do i get the implication that both men are named jesus.

[Whickerman]

That was my point. With the apocryphal gospels now freely available - really for the first time in history - there are more and more questions arising. I think the whole Da Vinci Code thing will be just the tip of the iceberg. Already the vatican has started moves to change our perception of Judas. Barabbas was a criminal, so was Jesus Christ as far as the Romans were concerned. Barabbas wasn't the thief of lore, seems he was a political insurgent, so there are a lot of ideas out there which can be read very differently in different contexts.