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anotheoldgit | 14:56 Tue 12th Jul 2011 | News
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http://www.telegraph....ring-of-scandals.html

Wow, the NOTW would have had a heyday with this bunch of MPs.
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Regardless of the depth of scandal advised AOG - the day has never dawned, nor will it, when we 'need' The News Of the World!
Australia's biggest selling newspaper is the Sunday Telegraph. Owned by Murdoch, low end trashy sex gossip and Sport. (sound familar?)

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/
Murdoch was an Australian, you know. He would certainly played up the scandal of MPs dancing in green udnerwear for all they were worth.
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Andy-Hughes

It was just a light hearted topical play on words Andy, don't take things so literally.

But if I may also take your words literally, may I remind you of the following?

The hundreds of crooks and monsters that the NOTW helped to put behind bars.

The NOTW campaign that saw the introduction of 'Sarah's Law'.

Their 'Justice for the Boys' campaign, which helped to get 'The Military Covenant' written into law.

Their 'Toys for our Boys' campaign that gave every child of a serviceman fighting in Afghanistan a sack of 'goodies' worth £25.

Plus the '7/7 Compensation' campaign, 'The Helping Hand' campaign, which aided millions of children whose lives had been destroyed by bulling, not to mention their 'Go Green' campaigns. and 'Save our Streets' campaign to help rid our streets of violence.

All this and more must go a long way to put the small matter of a few phones being 'hacked' into some insignificance.

I must add that I do not read the NOTW, but I think that certain matters have been blown out of all proportion.
// 'Save our Streets' campaign to help rid our streets of violence. //

Wonder how that's doing?
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Gromit

Obviously we are never going to rid our streets of violence completely, but at least it's a start.

Over two years the NOTW held roadshows in 20 towns and cities were people had the chance to meet politicians and police to describe how their communities were being ravaged, and many vented their anger at the lenient sentences given out to yobs, thieves and burglars.
Mine was also light-hearted - so we can agree on that.

However, I have to take issue with your notion that the paper's past good works count as some sort of credit system to be balanced against its cynical pursuit of sales involving its tawdry and illegal practices.

No amount of good work allows any organisation, or individual, to have their crimes minimised or excused - fortunately, the justice system doesn't work that way.
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Andy-Hughes

Give a bit of slack here, Andy.

Even a court of law takes into consideration past points of good behaviour before it sentences a person.
We are talking a number of highly-paid journalists and police officers who have acted in a corrupt immoral and illegal fashion in pursuit of newspaper circulation on one hand, and illegal cash on the other. I don't think a little public moralising - carried out once again in the cynical pursuit of sales (you don't really think these people are interested in their causes do you!) acts as a balance against these actions, and thanks to our legal system, neither will the courts either.
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Andy Hughes

So nobody does anything for nothing?

I think that is being a little syndical on your part.

By the way Andy you did not reply to my condemnation at what you said in an earlier post.

/// but should preferably be gassed without dedlay! ///

I thought that was an horrible thing to say.
You can find examples of altruistic behaviour in lots of places, AoG - but you will not find many examples in the world of journalism. I would agree with Andy - Some headline campaigns do not offset the criminal activities they appear to have engaged in.
Nor was it just a few phones hacked - NotW were,seemingly, hacking one and all with merry abandon.And this represents the tip of the iceberg - Its certain that other titles were at it too.
There may be occasions when breaking the law in the persuit of a story might be justified as being in the public interest, but those stories are few and far between.Routinely hacking anyone and everyone they felt like is impossible to justify.
AOG - please refresh my memory of the post I have made about someone(s) being 'gassed without delay' - I do not recall. i will then of course be happy to respond.

Thank you.
// The Mail`s slant is - as usual - that people who do not meaure up to the Mail`s perception of deserving individuals living a lifestyle of which they approve - married tax payer, white, UK born etc., shouls not only not have what ever they are getting, but should preferably be gassed without dedlay!

Personally,Ii do not believe that children are a `right`, they are however, a gift not given to everyone. //

You might have had a shandy or two andy.
// The party's general secretary, Sam Dastyari, pledged to adopt all the recommendations of the review. //

Where have I heard a similar sentiment from our MPs ?
Our present shower are doing everything to get around the new regulations and the last crowd mainly got away with it . Some in fact got themselves re-elected.
andy, I think you were in lighthearted mood (I can't remember the exact topic). However, it is aog's specialty to take lighthearted comments seriously and demand abject apologies (unless he's made them himself, in which case he's outraged at others' sense of humour failures).
Thanks Gromit for the reminder.

jno - thanks for your support.

AOG - did you really think I was being serious with that comment? It was obviously being sarcastic, so no, I am not minded to apologise for it.
and what is he asking ? that you apologise to the daily mail ??

hells teeth and satans kittens indeed!
AOG -

"So nobody does anything for nothing?"

Of course they do - but not Murdoch-owned newspapers.

The notion that the Murdoch empire has anything approaching a philanthropic attitude towards the world in gnereal, and its 'causes' in particular, is frankly laughable.

These are hard-headed circulation-chasing hacks, and the depths to which they will sink to sell papers is finally being exposed.

As i have said, any peripherfal fall-out that may benefit the public at large is miniscue in comparison to the distress they have caused with their invasive tittle-tattling into and about the lives of individuals who do not court the media in any way. It in no way justifies the way the editorial staff have behaved in the hacking arena, and attempts to justify their behaviour simply look hollow and misplaced.
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Andy-Hughes

http://www.theanswerb.../Question1033869.html

This is what you posted.

/// The Mail`s slant is - as usual - that people who do not meaure up to the Mail`s perception of deserving individuals living a lifestyle of which they approve - married tax payer, white, UK born etc., shouls not only not have what ever they are getting, but should preferably be gassed without dedlay!///

/// Personally,Ii do not believe that children are a `right`, they are however, a gift not given to everyone.///

18:29 Mon 04th Jul 2011 Rep
AOG - and your point is?

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