Don't Wish To Appear Mean

[lankeela]

but why are we celebrating the 72nd anniversary of the NHS? 50, 75 or 100 I can understand but 72nd? Is this going to become the new norm?

[Bobbisox1]

probably because of the current situation Lankeela and a way to say thank you

[Spicerack]

They should be thanking us. (and apologising)

[Gromit]

Labour won the 1945 General Election and Bevan set about setting up a National Health service.
The Government White Paper was 1945, so that is what the anniversary is about. The actual organisation was later.

[Peter Pedant]

typical AB - "why we do dat den?"
say fanx I fink

er I think the idea of the NHS being thanked and celebrated is uppermost in politicians minds
considering the divisive events abroad ( Macron firing the old PM and the new one is indicted for fraud - Trump doing his usual and so on)

NHS is a unifying experience ( or social construct ) compared to say BLM which is divisive

[Togo]

//why are we celebrating the 72nd anniversary of the NHS?//

In case anybody forgets it's there?

[Mozz71]

//They should be thanking us. (and apologising)//

*sigh* Okay, I'll bite. Why and what for?

[Old_Geezer]

Because anyone daft enough to play seals in the street every week, will be chomping at the bit to do it again using any excuse.

[Peter Pedant]

.//Labour won the 1945 General Election and Bevan set about setting up a National Health service//


The white paper A national health service, published in 1944, detailed the wartime coalition government's vision for a comprehensive,

that wd be the usual AB attention to detail that we know and love

The white paper A document published by the government that sets out policy proposals.A national health service, published in 1944, detailed the wartime coalition government’s vision for a comprehensive, free and unified health service.

surprisingly PP comments - the war planners in 1944 said that the were gonna win the war so what was the country gonna look like after?
remarkable vision compared to now - see Trump or even The Bonker of Downing Street

it is remarkable to think we were better governed then than now ( denying the common idea of the onward march of History always to better conditions)

[Tashi]

As a NHS Professional I feel I have to ask Spicerack 'Why?'

[Old_Geezer]

A long term trend to improvement need not avoid detours, side steps, steps back, etc. along the way.

[douglas9401]

Possibly for having become an all but single issue organisation, Tashi.

All of my appointments were cancelled early on and remain so.
No podiatry, audiology, dentistry, diabetes clinic, I could go on but don't want to give the impression that I'm completely decrepit.

[Mamyalynne]

// Is this going to become the new norm?//

Possibly - following the success of the weekly clap for the NHS etc it is hoped this will become an annual thank you.

No obligation of course.

[Spicerack]

We isolated so well that instead of being 'swamped', you've spent the last 3 months performing naff dance routines in, seemingly, empty hospitals.
Not talking to Mozz, he's too vulgar. ;-)

[Tashi]

Too late :o)

[jno]

my local hospital isn't "seemingly empty", it's its usual busy self when I've been in. Other appointments have been by phone, but if that means I avoid contact with Covid, that's okay.

[Gromit]

Thanks for the correction PP.
The White Paper was 1944, but the green light for an NHS was Labour’s 1945 election win. It was then that Bevan started to make it happen, and why 75 years later, we are commemorating that by clattering pans in the street.

[ummmm]

I've only had one appointment switched to phone. I spoke to my consultant for much longer than I would have face to face.

[jno]

there had been discussions on an NHS before the war, but they were pretty much put on ice for the duration. They resumed late in the war and the election of a Labour government helped, though it's quite possible the Tories would have done the same.

https://wdc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/health/id/688/

[Gromit]

Jno,
The Tories undoubtedly would have produce a medical service, but they would have acceded to the private sector who were on the whole against an NHS. It would have been very different.

National Archive:
// The British Medical Association resisted the proposal that some general practitioners should become salaried state employees under the scheme. Henry Willink, Minister for Health under Churchill, produced a compromise White Paper, which enabled general practitioners to continue as independent contractors or private practitioners. //

[teacake44]

Sadly lots of folk have very sort memories, hence they only appreciate the NHS when they need them, you may call me miserable but to be honest I just can't see how some could see going out to the pub to be so important, within the very short time of the loss of many old and very young doctors and nurses, and lets not forget they are still in danger, very much so.
The saying goes,( Some people will only love you for as long as they can use you.)