Terrorist Threat Raised To 'sunstantial'

[Zacs-Master]

Never quite heard it announced on the news quite so quickly. Quite worrying.
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/about-us/faqs-about-mi5/what-is-the-current-national-threat-level.html

[agchristie]

Well, Cardiff will be unbreachable for a time soon!

[mikey4444]

dave has just said that he will be "making a statement in the House of Commons on Monday" Parliament is in recess...does that mean he has recalled Parliament ?

[mikey4444]

Thanks DB ! So I am not sure what the difference is between what he is doing as I type, and what he will be doing next week. As the Commons hasn't been recalled, he can hardly address an empty chamber ?

[mushroom25]

hardly worth coming back - they're off on a month-long orgy of back-slapping come the 12th.

[mikey4444]

Thanks guys...it seems our MPs have more holidays than Fergie !
( Sarah not Alex )

[anotheoldgit]

Be prepared, "Weapons of mass destruction" springs to mind.

[retrocop]

I sincerely hope that further measures to be announced in the H of C on Monday include barring any involvement by our judiciary in the implementation of any anti-terrorist laws awaiting our homegrown fanatical Islamic hero's return. It is no use whatsoever to have cross border cooperation and intelligence sharing if some be wigged muppet declares it against their human rights to be kept in internment on return and then deported to country of origin or even banished back to Syria or Iraq where they so bravely carried out their acts of terror. We do not want returning jihadists wandering our streets with tags on, given ASBO's or told they are under house arrest..If the Prime Minister want's to get tough on terrorism then he had better get tough with the judiciary as well. Remember the time and money (legal aid) it took to rid our one-eyed cleric filth from our shores. Why not have a home grown Guantanemo Bay here. No appeal. No legal aid. Perhaps we could spare them the water boarding ,white sound and sleep deprivation though. Must be getting soft in my old age. This Islamic fundamentalist terrorist vermin did not spare any pity or leave to appeal for their victims before they beheaded them.
The Prime Minister mentioned,in his press conference, that future plans incorporate certain values that must be followed in this country. One of those was respect for minorities here. Well if that was meant to include all British citizens born and bred in this country then I say at last Mr Cameron you are beginning to realise we are fast becoming the minority in our own country and this imbalance must be rectified before we have a Islamic caliphate here as well.

[Zacs-Master]

// fast becoming the minority in our own country//
2011 White was the majority ethnic group at 48.2 million in 2011 (86.0 per cent). Within this ethnic group, White British1 was the largest group at 45.1 million (80.5 per cent)

[retrocop]

I thought another number cruncher would quickly jump in with pointless stats.
I am talking about what could soon happen in the future not figures compiled 3 years ago. Only yesterday it was announced that the immigration figures were woefully inaccurate by a mere 140,000 was'nt it?

[Zacs-Master]

those 'pointless stats' (which are only 3 years old) completely discredit your claim that we are fast becoming a minority in our own country. If you want to make a serious point you really need to stick to facts and not wildly exaggerated opinion.

[mikey4444]

Zacs...voice of reason ...well done. Facts scare some people, although I have never understood why ?

Here is the full data ::

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census/key-statistics-for-local-authorities-in-england-and-wales/rpt-ethnicity.html

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census/key-statistics-for-local-authorities-in-england-and-wales/rpt-religion.html

[Zacs-Master]

They tend to get in the way of a good rant Mikey.

[sandyRoe]

Are they conflating the real threat in NI with the lesser one in England?

[retrocop]

Was the 140,000 missed immigrants an exaggerated opinion then.If you wan't to quote 3 year old figures lets hop forward 3 or 6 years and see where 140,000 missed immigrants per year will take us . When will people finally say the country is full.No more ? I will leave this post as it is becoming side lined into an immigration subject and NOT about the current threat level and |Mr Cameron's statement of intent.

[mikey4444]

I think we should all be taking this issue seriously, and I count myself in that as well. Islamic terrorists have shown what they capable of before in Britain...bombs in Tube trains and buses, etc. Glad I don't live in Central London, or Cardiff for that matter !

[Zacs-Master]

Another fact: 140,000 as a percentage of 48 million white British people is 0.29%. Hardly a major step towards us becoming a minority is it?

[Zacs-Master]

//I will leave this post as it is becoming side lined into an immigration subject//
erm.....which you contributed to in a major fashion.

[mikey4444]

We are all entitled to an opinion Retro, but the problem arises when that opinion is stated as a "fact" and then that "fact" is proven to be wrong. I with you 100% of the way when it comes to the threat posed by terrorists but you lose my support when you say things like "We are beginning to realise we are fast becoming the minority in our own country" because the facts show that we are not even coming close. Less than 5% of the British population is Islamic.