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Oops There Goes The Green Vote........

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ToraToraTora | 10:24 Thu 08th Feb 2024 | News
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68232133

On the plus side though I think Sir Beer may pick up more of the realist vote. These are the people that realise that cutting our own throats will not make the slightest difference to world carbon emissions. Maybe the LINO party have had a sudden damascene episode.

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Our local authority has just announced that we are to get an extra re-cycling bin. It is labelled Starmer's Pledges and Promises. Pretty big bin apparently. 
14:15 Fri 09th Feb 2024

Mostly they leave their u-turns till after the election!

extremely disappointing. between this and labour's support for genocide in gaza i will unfortunately struggle to vote for them...

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oh no they'll be gutted untitled!

LINO ....."LABOUR...IN..OFFICE"..........Love it.

It is a disgrace that this pledge was broken.

// We will lead the global fight against climate change by delivering on our world-leading target of Net Zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, as advised by the independent Committee on Climate Change. //

Lino -  that second rate stuff that cheapskates use to cover a multitude of sins.

The green vote usually goes to the Green party anyway. I think it will help pick up more of the disillusioned Tory vote.

^ That was the Manifesto promise that got the current Government elected 😀

They have been denying they were going to drop that for ages.

I doubt that many who vote Tory would contemplate a green vote, except as a protest vote for a no-hoper party. (Some already do but tend to choose Lib.) There is already another party that may well align better with their aspirations and it sure ain't the present opposition.

 

won't just be me tora. i detest the tories but one does need to have standards to at least some degree... what labour is selling at the moment is not satisfactory

In a way I admire them for dropping this pledge pre-election rather than post-election. I think it shows some balls, given some people, possibly a lot of people, may have voted for them on the strength of the pledge only for it to be yanked once elected (assuming they get elected). If they knew they couldn't honour it, then get rid of it, otherwise they would be accused of inducing people to vote for them.

//they would be accused of inducing people to vote for them.//

That's what election manifestos are for - and they don't care once they have your vote.

The barmy cost of it always made it a non flyer.

Plus, for the poor, it means more fuel peverty as taxes would have to be raised and there is no way those taxes could be levied on income without major issues.

I think its good they have thought it through (probably more Reeves than anyone else).

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DD: "In a way I admire them for dropping this pledge pre-election rather than post-election." - They no doubt realised that people have seen through this "Net zero" etc Rowlocks and concluded that they'd lose a few Thunberginis but gain more of the realists. I doubt there was any sort of sincerity involved.

Our local authority has just announced that we are to get an extra re-cycling bin. It is labelled Starmer's Pledges and Promises. Pretty big bin apparently. 

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I've heard they've had to get special dustcarts Togs!

Quinten Letts in the Mail nails it today. It is paywalled so will not post. Some sample lines though. 

""The green spending pledge, said Sir Keir, had been 'stood down'. Stood down! That's one way of saying 'flushed down the khazi because even we can now see Ed Miliband is nuts'. Mr Miliband was not in the room. Sir Keir's bodyguards aren't that stupid. But the reporters were assured that the shadow energy secretary was 'fully signed up'. Poor Ed. For years he has dreamed of spending billions on eco policies and now he has been humiliated by two people who speak like characters from a Tunes advert.""
""They didn't want Ed Miliband bursting in and gluing himself to Sir Keir like a Just Stop Oil loon.""  Haha. 
""The celebrated hokey-cokey artiste Sir Keir Rodney Starmer has excelled himself. ‘You put your left wing in, your left wing out, in out, in out, shake it all about.’ Sir Keir, a stern critic of government chaos, yesterday proved himself the true maestro of muddle.""

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