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banker_frank | 12:41 Thu 04th Jul 2019 | ChatterBank
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made obese people acceptable? They are unhealthy yet more and more we see plus size models being proud of their bodies instead of trying to attain a healthy weight. Should the media be pandering to these fatties or educating them that fat is not good?
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I am all for positive plus size marketing. If larger people can get swimsuits and exercise wear that they feel okay in, they are more likely to swim and exercise. If they can get clothes they feel confident in they are more likely to socialise and take a pride in their appearance rather than locking themselves away comfort eating. Hopefully this will help some...
16:55 Thu 04th Jul 2019
I am all for positive plus size marketing. If larger people can get swimsuits and exercise wear that they feel okay in, they are more likely to swim and exercise.
If they can get clothes they feel confident in they are more likely to socialise and take a pride in their appearance rather than locking themselves away comfort eating.
Hopefully this will help some of them take the steps necessary to lose weight.
Isolation, depression and low self esteem all contribute to eating disorders and overeating.
Alright Frank to answer your question,I'd seen neither Boots ad nor the Tu girl, I just googled both. The Boots ad girls are completely normal and healthy however we have had years of anorexic models, so starved and ill they sometimes die rammed down our throats that we now consider that to be what a normal woman ought to look like. Boots have jumped on the gravy train of the backlash against that and are portraying perfectly normal sized women as 'a bit heavy' or 'a bit flawed but empowered' Yay go girls :/
Well stuff that they are just women, they are normal sized women, people come in all shapes and weights and fat people don't need educating by the media, they already know what is and isn't good for them weight wise, but weight gain is a whole lots more complex than people simply overeating. These are ads designed to sell things, and they work, so no they don't need to be altered, they are doing what they are designed to do. People's weight is their own business, we don't need to take a backwards step and propagate body shaming again anytime soon, that only makes everything a whole lots worse for those struggling with their weight.
It's all for the popularity and the money. Companies don't actually care about the standards they portray.. They care about one thing, results.
As a society, we are fat-ist - we always have been.

The subconcious reaction to seeing an overweight person is to assume they are lazy and lack personal discipline, which is why they are the way they are, and as such, attract hostility and derision.

Society now is attempting to redress that imbalance, and the media reflects that.

I am always wary of the concept of calling people role models - these models are not asking people to emulate them, or suggest that to be like them is a desireable ambition - they are simply part of an evolving approach to body image, and we should not read mre into it than is actually there.
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Some really good thought provoking answers. Thanks.
Only speaking from my own experience, but having been derided and spat at in the street for being fat, I cannot see how it has become socially acceptable at all.
Actually our view about weight is directly proportional to social status- ie everyone wants to appear superior and rich.
Right up to WWII (which owing to rationing really was the deal breaker with this) it was considered more attractive to be larger rather than slim- this correlates to 'I am rich- I can afford good food and plenty of it, therefore my social status is high'. There were ads well into this century for supplements to make girls GAIN weight to make them more attractive to men.
Since poor quality sugar and fat laden foods have become cheap, gym membership is expensive and fresh produce more expensive the opposite is now true. Slim people are now considered to be socially superior because a slim physique says 'I have money to buy good quality food, not processed foods and time and money to indulge in the gym'.
There have been whole papers written on this phenomena as a social construct.
^^ that was in reply to Andy^^ x
//As a society, we are fat-ist - we always have been.//

I’m not sure which society that refers to but in some societies fat is regarded as a symbol of wealth. That said, I think our particular society is ‘ist’ about anything that isn’t considered to be ‘the norm’. To fat, too tall, too short, too thin, cauliflower ears, ginger hair, big nose, goofy teeth, too brainy, too dopey, too wealthy, too poor … and so on. I don’t believe anyone really escapes totally… but that’s human nature…. something that the media, in it’s efforts to ‘normalise’, disregards.
*its* - before anyone jumps on me. :o)
" 'I have money to buy good quality food, not processed foods and time and money to indulge in the gym'."

And I don't eat until I'm physically sick.

Aldi and Lidl, as well as selling tool kits and skiwear have a good range of well priced fresh fruit and vegetables, cheap carrier bags and pavements for people to walk on to save them the gym membership.

For every overblown excuse there's a reasonable answer. Folk just like cakes and pies.
Weird isn't it! Seems acceptable to call it like it is with 'fatties' but not Down syndrome people, mentally retarded individuals, autistic humans, anyone is fair game but of course one has to be seen as non 'ism' because it's not politically correct.

As I have said before.... Some obesity is inherited and not brought on by the sufferer. It is however not known but many and that includes the medical profession. It is called LIPOEODEMA. NO....not Lymphoedema...which is entirely different.

You are forgiven for being ignorant because it not a widely known chronic health condition. So PLEASE, do not judge a book by its cover....maybe just show a bit of thinking outside the box, that maybe, just maybe it's not what you think.

Today's society is so quick to judge and sometimes it's in in. The wrong direction....shame....but I guess ignorance is....summat we can all hold up our hand to....god forbid and pass the gin!
Douglas I'm a massive Aldi / Lidl fan when in the UK, I was discussing a paper I had read about the psychology behind what is generally considered aspirational weight wise for society as a whole. Doesn't mean I necessarily agree with it, nor yet that it's wrong, it was just an observation.
Who was that person who kept asking questions ...often several a day and unrelated.... and rarely responded to answers?- Nameless I think. This flow of questions is in much the same vein and from a newcomer too......has Nameless reappeared in a different guise? Certainly seems to have done.
Smoking is one cause of cancer but lots of people have cancer and they've never smoked. Or been in a smoking environment.

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