Are you ok or still hitting the bottle?
I know we dont see eye to eye (it would be a boring existance if we did) but let us know that you'r ok.
I know how powerful alcohol can be, Ive lost friends through it (young friends, not old wino's)
Tell us whats happening. A relapse isn't the end of the world, just a chance to revaluate our lives. Ive had addiction problems too.
wizard66 Sun 25/05/08 21:43
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Hi wizard. I have been worrying about Mani also.
A bank holiday weekend can be a difficult time for people in his situation. I do hope he's ok.
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Hi Wizard, I'm doing a bit better now thanks. Ive been quite ill and spent a night in hospital.
When you go six years without touching a drop of "falling down juice" and then suddenly start drinking anything you can get your hands on - well your body is not impressed!! Also discovering Magner's Irish Cider didn't help, I love it especially with ice cubes in the glass.
I'm lucky that I have friends and relatives who care about me, although I don't deserve to be cared about with my behaviour. I've been to AA which was very helpful, and now have a partner to call anytime I feel like drinking (am going to have quite a phone bill). She is also an alcoholic trying to quit and calls me when she feels like drinking. I'm back on the wagon and hopefully can now stay onboard.
Thanks for caring, especially after what I said.
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Ive been known to be tw@t at times as well you know...lol
Good that you'r back on the wagon. I know a lot of people that have got sober through AA (and stayed sober).
Stick with it and good luck (I take my hat off too you that youve been dry for 6years....I doubt that I could do 6 days!)
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Hi Mani . That's a relief to hear you are ok.
But don't say you like cider- say you used to like cider!
Good luck.
I'd be happy to chat to you in Sports, if you want. x
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I'm a recovering alcoholic too Mani.
Thankfully I realised and stopped before I did myself damage.
So far I'm 7 years dry although I gave up and slipped a few times getting here - I don't think you ever stop wanting a drink.
I was rather shocked by the prejudice from some quarters on that last thread from people I wouldn't expect it from.
People who'd never dream of characterising Jews as mean or blacks as lazy seemed to think that all alcoholics are obnoxious drunks who beat their wives.
Sounds like you have more issues telling people than I did - I tended to find most people said things like "Oh come on you don't have a real problem - it's not like you're in the gutter with a bottle of meths - you have a good job you can't be an alcoholic"
After a very short while they got used to it
The problem is always the company you keep and the fact that their social life normally revolves around the booze.
Remember don't give up giving up!
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Mani – I’m a Social Worker and work with people with drink problems all the time and I have seen how hard far you can fall once you land in this trap. Keep your head up and don’t let this slip up get you down.
I must say that I was also shocked by some of the prejudice shown by people like Octavius. I have seen so many times how people can completely lose all dignity and self-respect through alcohol and drug problems. I have seen grown men who cannot stop wetting themselves, nobody chooses this.
From the old wino to the Company Director the all deserve our sympathy and compassion.
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Since you have named me, I feel compelled to respond, although I was quite content to let people apologise to each other, clear the air and move on.
I have not shown any prejudice. I have spoken from personal experience. That is opinion, not prejudice. I said my sympathy is little, and felt (again from my experience) that pandering to the sensitivities of individuals with this addiction does not help them. My view is that they can only help themselves, of course with support from others.
My thoughts on the matter were both in respect of a particular thread in which inexcusable name calling and tasteless accusations went on.
Frankly I am glad things have moved on and away and I wish Mani well in achieving recovery, but please don’t assume my interests and opinions are only visceral.
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Personal experience becomes prejudice when you start to assume that your experience is representative of the general case.
Being robbed by a Dane does not make all Danes Robbers.
Having experience of violent drunks does not make all drunks violent.
Because some Catholic Priests have abused children does not make all Priests child abusers.
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My comments were not generalised prejudice.
It was an opinion based on personal factual experience.
Any prejudice shown was in response to the specific thread and the comments made, and the subsequent thread which debated opinions from experience of alcoholism.
Please do not presume to assume I employ generalisations in any or all individual circumstances. And if I have given that impression, consider this a renunciation of that sentiment.
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I'm sorry I must have misinterpreted:
There is ALWAYS a root cause and alcoholics will find any reason or excuse to justify/substantiate their continual abuse of alcohol and themselves,family, friends and the people around them
as a generalisation.
Must have been the capitalised ALWAYS that did it!
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Yes, my opinion is that there is always a root cause.
Is that prejudice then?
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It is when you expand to ALWAYS.
Like I say if you're mugged by a Dane it doesn't make alll Danes muggers
But let's just move on shall we?
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I believe there is always root cause, whether I capitalise it or not.
Content to move on though as I suggested earlier.
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Jake - What you said hit the nail on the head for me.
The hardest thing about addictions is that they never go away or get any easier, apart from maybe getting out of routines or habits.
Six years without a drink and I still craved it as much as the day I stopped. When I enter a pub I look at the different pumps and imagine how each drink tastes. The only thing that stops me is knowing how it will end up if don't restrain myself.
Every single social situation revolves around drinking and is laced with temptation; office parties, weddings, birthday parties, church outings, meeting up with friends etc. I also find it quite difficult to let myself go and really enjoy myself without a few drinks, too many inhibitions I supose.
You either become a social outcast who stays at home all the time or face a life of torture, temptation and risk. Either that or befriend a lot of muslims. How do you cope?
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Well i still think ur a tw@t after your comments regarding children born out of wedlock!!!!!!!!!!!
Drinking is not an excuse for speaking of people u kno nothing about!!! Especially in the foul manner u did!!
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Mani - glad to know you're on the mend. Did you speak to your employers? Are they taking you back? Best of health, luck and everything good. x
Many say these are just pixels and why bother, but there are real people with feelings behind pixels. I too thought of Mani and how he was faring.
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Hi figure, thanks for your caring and kind words. I'm suspended at the moment but have to go in for a disciplinary hearing on Friday. I've started looking for a new job. I need a new start in a new place, thinking of London as I have some friends there.
Sheribeee, I understand how you feel, your not the first person to think I'm a tw@t. My behaviour was appalling that night. Maybe if you give me a chance and get to know the real Mani, then in time you may feel differently about me, but then again you may just still think I'm a tw@t - my sister does.
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Hi Mani- great to see you're ok. My offer to chat privately in Sportsbank still stands. Good luck, + try to stay strong x
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Hi Bathsheba - I would really love to chat with you. Just not really feeling very talkative at the moment, how about next week?
Anyway tell me more about yourself?
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Did you name yourself after Solomon's mother?
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