The K M Links Game - April 2024 Week 4
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Is It Time To Ban Religion And Religious Education?
Is it time to ban religion and religious education?
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You can't ban religion but you can ban faith schools and it should be done immediately. No permissions should be given for any new religious buildings either particularly mosques.
08:00 Tue 23rd May 2017
We don't live in a secular state.
We still have the Queen as head of the Church of England. The Archbishops of Canterbury and York and 24 other bishops have seats in the House of Lords. Christianity is woven into the fabric of our society.
So, while that system pervades, getting rid of faith schools - particularly Christian faith schools - is going to be a problem.
It's a good ambition though. Extremist religious terrorism demonstrates that some actions based on religious belief cannot be justified by normal followers of that or other religions. If that gets those followers thinking in the wider context, of any action based on religious belief being difficult to justify, including following the religion itself, then maybe eventually religion will fade away. What it's replaced with then becomes the issue - intolerance, aggression and violence are not confined to the religious.
We still have the Queen as head of the Church of England. The Archbishops of Canterbury and York and 24 other bishops have seats in the House of Lords. Christianity is woven into the fabric of our society.
So, while that system pervades, getting rid of faith schools - particularly Christian faith schools - is going to be a problem.
It's a good ambition though. Extremist religious terrorism demonstrates that some actions based on religious belief cannot be justified by normal followers of that or other religions. If that gets those followers thinking in the wider context, of any action based on religious belief being difficult to justify, including following the religion itself, then maybe eventually religion will fade away. What it's replaced with then becomes the issue - intolerance, aggression and violence are not confined to the religious.
You can’t ban religion, but it should be banned in schools.
Schools are supposed to teach facts not fairy tales, and I think faith schools should be outlawed.
If parents want to brainwash and indoctrinate their children, then let them do it at home.
I see that the Conservative manifesto wants to ‘change the rules to allow the establishment of new Roman Catholic schools.’ So I doubt faith schools will be banned any time soon.
I also think the news should stop reporting things like “The Pope says this” or “The Arch Bish says that” because those that care about such nonsense can get that information elsewhere.
Schools are supposed to teach facts not fairy tales, and I think faith schools should be outlawed.
If parents want to brainwash and indoctrinate their children, then let them do it at home.
I see that the Conservative manifesto wants to ‘change the rules to allow the establishment of new Roman Catholic schools.’ So I doubt faith schools will be banned any time soon.
I also think the news should stop reporting things like “The Pope says this” or “The Arch Bish says that” because those that care about such nonsense can get that information elsewhere.
The teachings of Christianity have served us well over the many years it has existed.
As a boy I was encouraged by my parents to go to Sunday School and later to attend Sunday evening church. Sunday was a special day when we dressed in our best togs, wasn't allowed to noisily play outside but mostly took walks. At School we would attend assembly where we would join together in prays and hymn singing etc.
I think that the rise of atheism has created some of the immoral lifestyles and lack of discipline that we see today.
I think that I can safely say that I am on of the eldest person on AB so can truly speak from a lifetimes experience and not just what is the latest fashion of today.
As a boy I was encouraged by my parents to go to Sunday School and later to attend Sunday evening church. Sunday was a special day when we dressed in our best togs, wasn't allowed to noisily play outside but mostly took walks. At School we would attend assembly where we would join together in prays and hymn singing etc.
I think that the rise of atheism has created some of the immoral lifestyles and lack of discipline that we see today.
I think that I can safely say that I am on of the eldest person on AB so can truly speak from a lifetimes experience and not just what is the latest fashion of today.
Bigbad
/// You can’t ban religion, but it should be banned in schools.
Schools are supposed to teach facts not fairy tales, ///
And you know for certain that it is all fairy tales do you.
Admittedly certain happenings may have got distorted over the years, just as most historical happening are, but most of the writings are historical writings of those long off times.
And what can be wrong with most of the Ten Commandants?
Do not make yourself an idol.
Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it holy.
Honour thy Mother and Father.
Do not murder.
Do not commit adultery.
Do not steal.
Do not testify false witness against your neighbour.
Do not covet.
What a better world we would live in if we all stuck to those teachings.
/// You can’t ban religion, but it should be banned in schools.
Schools are supposed to teach facts not fairy tales, ///
And you know for certain that it is all fairy tales do you.
Admittedly certain happenings may have got distorted over the years, just as most historical happening are, but most of the writings are historical writings of those long off times.
And what can be wrong with most of the Ten Commandants?
Do not make yourself an idol.
Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it holy.
Honour thy Mother and Father.
Do not murder.
Do not commit adultery.
Do not steal.
Do not testify false witness against your neighbour.
Do not covet.
What a better world we would live in if we all stuck to those teachings.
Banning religion and religious education - apart from being impractical would not cure what I suggest you see as the issue, which is the atrocities carried out in the name of religions.
the religions are not the problem - it is the ability of people to twist the messages into their own ends that causes the problems we have.
The issues, like the religions, are all man-made.
It's not a matter of banning religious education, it's more a case of making education teach people respect for each other.
the religions are not the problem - it is the ability of people to twist the messages into their own ends that causes the problems we have.
The issues, like the religions, are all man-made.
It's not a matter of banning religious education, it's more a case of making education teach people respect for each other.
AOG
The religious clap trap that I remember from school is stuff like virgin birth, feeding the 5000 with a couple of loaves and fish, rising from the dead, 4 horsemen of the apocalypse and an RE teacher who said you should lead good and blameless lives, but as he was also the headmaster, had no problem with wielding the cane.
As far as the 10 Commandments go, aren’t they (mostly) just common sense?
If people choose to be religious, then I have no problem with that, but that religion shouldn’t be forced on other people.
Having said that, how many people actually choose religion? I would guess that most are born into a religious family and taught it as fact.
The religious clap trap that I remember from school is stuff like virgin birth, feeding the 5000 with a couple of loaves and fish, rising from the dead, 4 horsemen of the apocalypse and an RE teacher who said you should lead good and blameless lives, but as he was also the headmaster, had no problem with wielding the cane.
As far as the 10 Commandments go, aren’t they (mostly) just common sense?
If people choose to be religious, then I have no problem with that, but that religion shouldn’t be forced on other people.
Having said that, how many people actually choose religion? I would guess that most are born into a religious family and taught it as fact.
As a young child I, along with the rest of the congregation, used to recite this every week in the Church that was attached to my school ...
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We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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Picture a couple of hundred people reciting that together every week. Strong stuff, so much so that I can still repeat most of it now many years later, particularly if chanting along with say a TV programme.
If that isn't indoctrination I don't know what is.
If we're going to do away with religion, it has to be ALL religion. No favouritism, no exceptions.
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We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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Picture a couple of hundred people reciting that together every week. Strong stuff, so much so that I can still repeat most of it now many years later, particularly if chanting along with say a TV programme.
If that isn't indoctrination I don't know what is.
If we're going to do away with religion, it has to be ALL religion. No favouritism, no exceptions.
//the religions are not the problem - it is the ability of people to twist the messages into their own ends that causes the problems we have.//
That isn't true for Islam at least. The messages that Islamic extremists adhere to come from within Islamic literature and are quite clear. No twisting required.
That isn't true for Islam at least. The messages that Islamic extremists adhere to come from within Islamic literature and are quite clear. No twisting required.
so on that logic, naomi, there is no Islamic moderation and also, by that book, no difference between the sects thinking, not withstanding their post Mohammed roots. Of course there has been twisting.....it's also man's nature and not only religion but also if four people witness an event or crime, four people will have different views as we naturally take things, digest and 'twist' it - it doesn't mean anyone lies but it's those differences and twists that barristers thrive on. The same with religious interpretation, I would surmise.
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