Should Newspapers Print Pictures Of The Queen Giving Nazis Salute?

[Gromit]

Some down market newspapers today have printed photographs of the Queen, aged 7 years old, practising the Nazi salute, in the gardens of Buckingham Palace.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/11748024/Buckingham-Palace-disappointed-at-1933-footage-released-by-The-Sun.html

Is there a public interest justification for printing the pictures?

Or is it disrespectful to her majesty?

[ichkeria]

No, and I think it was pretty rotten of them at the time to show Hitler doing it as well :-)

[Baldric]

///but no sign of any "disappointment" that they did the Nazi salutes in the first place !///

Given that it was filmed in1933 I'm not sure why there should be. People just seem to go out of their way to be offended, and become all self-righteous when there is no offence to be taken.

[-Talbot-]

The video is what it is... A Nazi sympathising family practising the Nazi salute!

Why are posters struggling with that?

[ToraToraTora]

mikey: "it is reported that Buck House is "disappointed" that the papers have reported this, but no sign of any "disappointment" that they did the Nazi salutes in the first place ! " - at the time the full horror of what Gemany was doing and about to do was not known it was a common courtesy in many situations. The England football team for example gave the salute. I'm amazed they feel the need to print this though, toe rags.

[ToraToraTora]

Talbot, FOS as usual.

[woofgang]

slow news day.....

[-Talbot-]

My, my some people are really upset about this...let's hope the goose-stepping vid never finds daylight!

[Gromit]

AOG,

My question was whether the the Daily Mail and other scumbag newspapers should print these photos.

My comments about Edward VIII were not Anti-British, they were Anti-Nazi.

I realise it must be a difficult question for you to answer with your love of all things far right and fascist. Perhaps you shouldn't have bothered.

[DTCwordfan]

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/07/17/princess-kate-queen-elizabeth-feud-rum

this works.....

[Marshwarble]

I think it's all do with counterfactuals, this interest. What would happen if Hitler had taken over? What if King George was really subject to the Fuhrer?

Terrorism is a bigger threat to this country at the moment, but anti-Semitism is growing at the moment so we shouldn't be blind to it.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// My question was whether the the Daily Mail and other scumbag newspapers should print these photos.///

Seeing that the Telegraph also published the photo, do you include that paper in your abusive description of scumbag newspapers?

The BBC gave it a good airing also.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33578174

[Gromit]

// ...but anti-Semitism is growing at the moment //

That is debatable. More anti-semitic crimes are being recorded, but that does not mean there is a rise in the crime. Shomrim patrol groups are in many of our cities, not to stop crimes against Jewish people, but to list every instance of alledged anti semitism, whether proven or not. It is their figures which are touted as proof that anti semitism is rising.

[ummmm]

You have to feel for the poor abused newspapers!

[steg]

If the queen had a hitler mustashe, a swastika tattooed on her forehead and goose stepped as she walked, it wouldn't detract That she is a good queen

[Gromit]

AOG,
Amusing that you still have not answered my simple question.

The Telegraph have reprinted the cover of the 'Sun' newspaper., not the actual pictures. They are borderline naughty.

[Orderlimit]

"but anti-Semitism is growing at the moment"

Yes I agree, but the racist & fascist still try to justify this growing problem.

[agchristie]

Good piece here:

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/fraser-nelson/2015/07/why-the-queen-should-be-forgiven-for-her-nazi-salute-as-an-eight-year-old/

[Hypognosis]

As of 1933, there was still widespread concern that communism/Bolshevism would spread westward from Russia and Fascism took off as the opposition to a communist party in Germany.

That was how Hitler came to be voted into power. Classic case of democracy delivering what the public perceived to be the "least bad" candidate. They had little idea of the developments in the buildup to 1939.

Presumably, some people in Britain saw Hitler as a bulwark against communism and had some level of support for this new, alternative philosophy (nicked from Mussolini, by all accounts). From what little history has filtered through (how many kept their political sympathies under their hats?), we know about Moseley's brownshirts, the Mitfords and the Duke of Windsor.

No one we actually care about basically. Every other sympathiser has retained their anonymity.

I knew nothing of politics at age 6/7 and it would be unreasonable to project support for a political movement to the queen, at that age. By all means question what on earth her uncle and mother thought they were doing but, being 1933, mum and Liz's side of the family were not expecting to be on the throne, in later life and thus their behaviour, in public, was of a more relaxed, uninhibited kind.


The issue of the raiding of someone's home movie collection is more of a story than this, imho. However, I still appreciate being let in on this hidden historical detail.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// The Telegraph have reprinted the cover of the 'Sun' newspaper., not the actual pictures. They are borderline naughty. ///

As did your hated Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3165923/Pictured-Queen-taught-NAZI-SALUTE-Edward-VIII-secret-1933-film-Balmoral.html