Time For The Daily Mail To Apologise?

[sp1814]

A YouGov poll reveals that 69% of the nation thinks that the Daily Mail owes Ed Milliband an apology for trashing his father.

And more tellingly, 57% of the paper's own readership think the same.

In what other circumstances could a national paper get away with dancing on the grave of a war hero?

[sp1814]

JJ

There's a massive difference between disagreeing with a Guardian article because you don't share the same point of view, and the Guardian printing a character assassination on someone.

I remember the fuss that certain people kicked up when elements of the Left celebrated Thatcher's death.

emmie - were you not one of them?

[sp1814]

emmie

I think the Mail is a rotten paper. I think it's wallows in the politics of hate, but I accept that there are hateful people out there, and that the Mail, and to a lesser extent the Express, gives them an outlet for minorities that they wish to express their hatred for.

It would be a perfect world if everyone were accepting and tolerant of others, but that's never going to happen.

We will always have...other...elements.

[emmie]

yes i was, if you actually take the time to read what i said, i found it distasteful and have posted endless links photo's of those who gloried in her being dead, and champagne, what a laugh that is, exploding all over the place in mighty celebrations, which is what is so stupid about this tit for tat with the paper and Miliband, plenty of his supporters and councillors were happy when she passed away, wonder what Mrs T family thought of it.

[sp1814]

By the way emmie, I know I can get patronising, and I really do try to avoid it...but you wrote:

"they haven't got anything of the sort, when it goes out of circulation or when the Guardianistas take over and kill it, then you get your wish."

Which to me...is just, red rag to a bull.

[emmie]

do you ever ever read it, ever give it a second glance, or do you rely on hearsay, or perhaps look at the headlines? i only ask because some post links to it constantly, yet hate the paper...

[emmie]

they didn't get spanked, as to the Guardianistas, that encompasses quite a lot of people i believe. getting your knickers in a twist over this, all the while people are dying for want of water, medicines, and violence on a grand scale, in many parts of our world. what is it that so pisses you off about what a stupid paper says,

[sp1814]

emmie

So - we are in agreement. There is no dignity in trashing someone's who has died, no matter what their politics are.

And to say that a man who fought for our liberty hated Britain, left a 'legacy of evil' and to publish a picture of his grave with the words 'grave socialist', and then to infiltrate his brother's memorial is just plain crazy.

Remember - so many of the people celebrating Thatcher's death were ignorant students...people who were too young to remember Thatcher.

But this is the Daily Mail!!!

It's a newspaper.

It should act with a level of dignity above that of a bunch of drunks.

[emmie]

yes you are patronising sometimes, having a debate is one thing, being hacked off and being oh my gosh sarcastic is quite another.

[sp1814]

emmie

Don't lie.

I rarely post links to the Daily Mail.

AOG started that particular lie.

Do not go around repeating it.

You can tell it's a lie by clicking on my user name, and then scrolling through my posts.

I cannot stand it when people lie to win an argument.

[joggerjayne]

Good debate, guys ...

And good thread, sp ...

I have to go now. Catch ya later x

[emmie]

beg to differ on those out celebrating, i have already published enough photo's on the parties, those who think it was so great to be in Trafalgar square and elsewhere, and chant the witch is dead and worse, ages were right across the board.

[anotheoldgit]

Your figures prove nothing, perhaps one could say that 69% of the nation lean to the left and a large proportion of the 57% readership could also be left leaning.

[jackthehat]

Lady Thatcher was a divisive personality; but she is either admired or detested because of her *own* actions/policies.
Personally, I found the jubilant celebrations of her death pretty distasteful.

However, the DM has used his father (an academic who 'held views' rather than made policy) as a large blunt object with which to bludgeon Ed Miliband.
A disgraceful display by a National newspaper; although I think we'll need to be wearing thermals in Hell before they issue anything resembling an apology.

[emmie]

did you actually read what i said, did i mention you specifically, no. I said some, please note.

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do you ever ever read it, ever give it a second glance, or do you rely on hearsay, or perhaps look at the headlines? i only ask because some post links to it constantly, yet hate the paper...

[sp1814]

emmie

I apologise. I had indeed misread what you wrote. I take that back.

[emmie]

there are some on AB not just AOG who post links to it, like a naughty child saying look what he did, i can't see anything to be gained by it. If it's newsworthy i could understand, but those seem to take delight in just bashing the paper, for it's own sake.

[sp1814]

AOG

You wrote:

Your figures prove nothing, perhaps one could say that 69% of the nation lean to the left and a large proportion of the 57% readership could also be left leaning.

Which is the first time someone's actually challenged the figures - and you might actually be right about the first part.

What percentage voted Conservative at the last elections? I believe it was in the low to mid 30s?

That means statistically, that the rest of the country is either left, or left-leaning...which could explain the figures.

However, with regards to the proprtion of Mail readers being left-leaning...the jury is out on that.

Anyway...you don't have to be left-leaning to have found the original article offensive.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// emmie ///

/// Don't lie. ///

/// I rarely post links to the Daily Mail. ///

/// AOG started that particular lie. ///

That was not a lie, you have admitted yourself that you 'RARELY' post links to the Daily Mail, so that means that you 'SOMETIMES DO', therefore one is correct in stating that you are among the Daily Mail readership.

[sp1814]

And cheers for your inputs JJ!!!

[mikey4444]

I knew if we talked too loudly we would wake him up !