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Her husband was on today, and quite emotional about how many people have sent messages, and her book selling over 200,000.
Why does Gloria Hunniford always have to bring her daughter up who died of cancer into the conversation.
Her daughter was lovely and unfortunately young when she died, but the talk was about Linda and her husband.
You could see Ruth Holmes face saying, not again Gloria before she stepped in and went back to Linda's husband.
Why does Gloria Hunniford always have to bring her daughter up who died of cancer into the conversation.
Her daughter was lovely and unfortunately young when she died, but the talk was about Linda and her husband.
You could see Ruth Holmes face saying, not again Gloria before she stepped in and went back to Linda's husband.
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ummmm - "I disagree, Andy. When my dad died I just wanted to speak about him all the time. I had this irrational fear that people would forget him. I had a text today from my friend saying he's listening to a Pogues song thinking of my dad.....very touching, I welled up. Grief doesn't leave us, it's always there in the background." I think your point underlines my...
18:01 Mon 17th Nov 2014
andy hughes
I entirely empathise with your need to talk about your dad, but that is a far cry from appearing on your late wife's TV show raw with grief, and having the moment hi-jacked by a professional griever like Gloir Hunniford.
You didn't answer my earlier question, but the above tells me that you did not watch Loose Women yesterday. Gloria Hunniford did not 'high jack' anything, Ruth Holmes did not have any sort of look on her face saying "not again Gloria" Ruth Holmes also did not step in.
Your comparison of the broken leg/toothache is absolute nonsense.
I would think losing a child is the ultimate in psychological pain, therefore Gloria should be in a better position than most when it comes to understanding grief.
Of course there are those who say (and I have heard this often)
"They should be over it now it's been -insert any number you like- years"
I entirely empathise with your need to talk about your dad, but that is a far cry from appearing on your late wife's TV show raw with grief, and having the moment hi-jacked by a professional griever like Gloir Hunniford.
You didn't answer my earlier question, but the above tells me that you did not watch Loose Women yesterday. Gloria Hunniford did not 'high jack' anything, Ruth Holmes did not have any sort of look on her face saying "not again Gloria" Ruth Holmes also did not step in.
Your comparison of the broken leg/toothache is absolute nonsense.
I would think losing a child is the ultimate in psychological pain, therefore Gloria should be in a better position than most when it comes to understanding grief.
Of course there are those who say (and I have heard this often)
"They should be over it now it's been -insert any number you like- years"
Talbot - "Your comparison of the broken leg/toothache is absolute nonsense.
I would think losing a child is the ultimate in psychological pain, therefore Gloria should be in a better position than most when it comes to understanding grief."
It would appear that now you are turning grief into a p**sing contest - 'I am hurting more than you, I lost a child, you only lost your wife ...' - can you see how unpleasant that appears?
"Of course there are those who say (and I have heard this often)
"They should be over it now it's been -insert any number you like- years"
There are people like that - but I am not one of them.
I was a Samaritan volunteer for three years, I have spoken to dozens of people who have no-one to talk to because everyone thinks they should have 'got over it by now'.
Grief is not something you 'get over', it is something you weave into the fabric of your being, and you deal with it in your own way for the rest of your life. That is what grief is about.
What is less appropriate is popping up on TV like some go-to grief icon, pouring out 'understanding' for the benefit of the cameras and watching public.
I imagine Linda Bellingham's husband is getting far more comfort and support from people who visit or phone or e-mail, and just be with him, in private, away from a TV studio.
I would think losing a child is the ultimate in psychological pain, therefore Gloria should be in a better position than most when it comes to understanding grief."
It would appear that now you are turning grief into a p**sing contest - 'I am hurting more than you, I lost a child, you only lost your wife ...' - can you see how unpleasant that appears?
"Of course there are those who say (and I have heard this often)
"They should be over it now it's been -insert any number you like- years"
There are people like that - but I am not one of them.
I was a Samaritan volunteer for three years, I have spoken to dozens of people who have no-one to talk to because everyone thinks they should have 'got over it by now'.
Grief is not something you 'get over', it is something you weave into the fabric of your being, and you deal with it in your own way for the rest of your life. That is what grief is about.
What is less appropriate is popping up on TV like some go-to grief icon, pouring out 'understanding' for the benefit of the cameras and watching public.
I imagine Linda Bellingham's husband is getting far more comfort and support from people who visit or phone or e-mail, and just be with him, in private, away from a TV studio.
Talbot - "Did you watch it?"
No, I don't watch Loose Women, and had I been watching, and Gloria Hunniford had appeared, i would have turned over - it is rare for her to appear anywhere on TV without shoe-horning her career raison d'etre into her conversation at the earliest opportunity.
The woman has no dignity.
No, I don't watch Loose Women, and had I been watching, and Gloria Hunniford had appeared, i would have turned over - it is rare for her to appear anywhere on TV without shoe-horning her career raison d'etre into her conversation at the earliest opportunity.
The woman has no dignity.
> What is less appropriate is popping up on TV like some go-to grief icon
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> No, I don't watch Loose Women, and had I been watching, and Gloria Hunniford had appeared, i would have turned over
She is a regular panelist on the show, so she didn't just "pop up" on this issue ...
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The 19th series begin airing on 8 September 2014 with the introduction of new regular panelists Judy Finnigan and Gloria Hunniford, alongside Penny Lancaster and Sharon Osbourne as guest panelists.
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> No, I don't watch Loose Women, and had I been watching, and Gloria Hunniford had appeared, i would have turned over
She is a regular panelist on the show, so she didn't just "pop up" on this issue ...
http://
The 19th series begin airing on 8 September 2014 with the introduction of new regular panelists Judy Finnigan and Gloria Hunniford, alongside Penny Lancaster and Sharon Osbourne as guest panelists.
anneasquith - "if I had lost someone very dear to me, I don't think I would be on afternoon tv talking about it.....................sorry ,"
I'd agree, but different people handle grief in different ways.
It may be that Mr Pattermore took the opportunity to thank the public and his late wife's colleagues for the support he has received, in a one-off appearence, which would be easier than trying to deal with everyone individually.
However, if he is still apearing on TV in a decade's time talking about the loss of his wife, then that will be as similarly unseemly as it is when Ms. Hunniford hoves into view.
I'd agree, but different people handle grief in different ways.
It may be that Mr Pattermore took the opportunity to thank the public and his late wife's colleagues for the support he has received, in a one-off appearence, which would be easier than trying to deal with everyone individually.
However, if he is still apearing on TV in a decade's time talking about the loss of his wife, then that will be as similarly unseemly as it is when Ms. Hunniford hoves into view.
Ellipsis - "She is a regular panelist on the show, so she didn't just "pop up" on this issue ..."
Thank you for that information - I stand corrected.
However, it may be more appropriate if Ms. Hunniford had said beforehand that she didn't wish to discuss her own bereavement, which is private, and would provide an inappropriate distraction from the discussion on the day.
Somehow, that discussion never appears to take place before she appears on television.
Thank you for that information - I stand corrected.
However, it may be more appropriate if Ms. Hunniford had said beforehand that she didn't wish to discuss her own bereavement, which is private, and would provide an inappropriate distraction from the discussion on the day.
Somehow, that discussion never appears to take place before she appears on television.
Andy have you really lost a loved one? perhaps you find iit easy to get over things, I lost my husband 20 years ago, I still miss him and talk about him,
I did not see Ruths "here we go again" look. I do think of Glora's lovely daughter Karen, so sad, sad about Linda also. May they both rest in peace.
I did not see Ruths "here we go again" look. I do think of Glora's lovely daughter Karen, so sad, sad about Linda also. May they both rest in peace.
My thoughts are that when you have just lost someone you loved more than your own life then the last thing you want to hear is somebody else telling you about their's. Maybe later on, but not when you're in the first shock of grief. And, for me, she seems, to me, to think her loss is more than your loss.
poorclare - "Andy have you really lost a loved one? perhaps you find iit easy to get over things, I lost my husband 20 years ago, I still miss him and talk about him,"
Again, I have to say that I do not think that direct experience of a situation is the only qualification for expressing an opinion about it - I have never held a gun, much less fired one, but I have opinions about them, and the people who do.
But to return to the issue at hand -
I do not wish to come across as unfeeling about bereavement. I have three children and i cannot imagine the depthless and indeed endless pain I would suffer at the loss of any one of them - or indeed any of my close family.
My issue is not that Gloia Hunniford's grief is not sincere or deeply felt, I have no doubt about both.
My point is, Caron Keating died ten years ago - and it is unseemly to still be talking about her death to the point where Gloria Hunniford has almost become a 'go to' celebrity where a death is involved - if it's a cancer death, then there is even more chance of her input being involved - invited or not.
People like you and I - people like Goria Hunniford, people like David Cameron, lose children and it is never less than heartbreaking.
It is simply the way they deal with that grief that gives me an issue.
I would prefer it if TV programme makers did not appear to think - 'Death - get Gloria Hunniford on ...' which appears to be the default action, and she is complicit in that position.
Grief is a dreadful thing for anyone to bear - but to constantly make TV appearences about it lacks the dignity that a bereavement rquires.
Again, I have to say that I do not think that direct experience of a situation is the only qualification for expressing an opinion about it - I have never held a gun, much less fired one, but I have opinions about them, and the people who do.
But to return to the issue at hand -
I do not wish to come across as unfeeling about bereavement. I have three children and i cannot imagine the depthless and indeed endless pain I would suffer at the loss of any one of them - or indeed any of my close family.
My issue is not that Gloia Hunniford's grief is not sincere or deeply felt, I have no doubt about both.
My point is, Caron Keating died ten years ago - and it is unseemly to still be talking about her death to the point where Gloria Hunniford has almost become a 'go to' celebrity where a death is involved - if it's a cancer death, then there is even more chance of her input being involved - invited or not.
People like you and I - people like Goria Hunniford, people like David Cameron, lose children and it is never less than heartbreaking.
It is simply the way they deal with that grief that gives me an issue.
I would prefer it if TV programme makers did not appear to think - 'Death - get Gloria Hunniford on ...' which appears to be the default action, and she is complicit in that position.
Grief is a dreadful thing for anyone to bear - but to constantly make TV appearences about it lacks the dignity that a bereavement rquires.
ladybirder - "My thoughts are that when you have just lost someone you loved more than your own life then the last thing you want to hear is somebody else telling you about their's. Maybe later on, but not when you're in the first shock of grief. And, for me, she seems, to me, to think her loss is more than your loss."
My view exactly.
Why the assumption that Gloria Hunniford is the person who understands loss better than anyone else - which is why she is seen as the default TV personality to give her input - invited or not?
My view exactly.
Why the assumption that Gloria Hunniford is the person who understands loss better than anyone else - which is why she is seen as the default TV personality to give her input - invited or not?
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