Pedantic employer

[tinpusher6]

My employer is trying to do me for dishonesty,i hurt my ribs at work and at AandE the doctor said that i had "likely" broken a couple of ribs,the next morning my wife called my employer and said that i had broken a couple of ribs.
2 weeks later i got an xray as AandE didn't feel the need to do one and my results came back as not broken ribs but internal damage and now my employer thinks i'm being dishonest because my wife called and said that they were broken,i did send an e-mail to my employer saying "thankfully my ribs are NOT broken"

[tinpusher6]

My GP put chest injury on the notes

[tinpusher6]

Thanks for your answers guys

[vodkancoke]

That's obviously their problem! If they paid you SSP they can claim that back through PAYE, therefor they are not "out of pocket". The fact they pay you full pay means they can't and they are probably regretting that particular clause in the contract!
To be honest it shouldn't matter whether you broke your ribs, bruised your ribs or stubbed your big toe...the fact is the doc has signed you off and your employer needs to adhere to the contract they have provided you with.

[Greedyfly]

That's pretty vague. I would speak to HR as said before and see where that takes you. You are entitled to your sick pay and the time off and it is just unfortunate that you were told one thing and it turned out to be something else. All you can do is tell your employer what your told. As said before if you want you can allow your boss to see your medical notes with your permission but that is your choice = if you do make sure they pay for it!. Sounds like they are a bit crappy to work for if they can't just take your word and the sick notes as proof enough.

[Greedyfly]

Hope you get better soon

[vodkancoke]

Some fit notes tend to be vague! I recently had an employee off for 24 weeks and her fit note stated it was an "unexplained lung issue". She has now left and to this day I still don't know what it meant!

Anyway tinpusher, I hope you feel better soon and I hope you get the outcome you want :)

[tinpusher6]

Thanks Vodka and Greedy

[buildersmate]

"My employer is trying to do me for dishonesty".
What precisely is the employer doing to you? Is he attempting to turn it into a disciplinary issue?

To correct errors by Greedyfly and vodkaandcoke:
An employer is not entitled to demand that it gets access to your medical records (that much was correct), however if you refuse and you generally make it difficult for the employer to assess when you might be expected to be able to come back to work - either full-time or perhaps with limitations, it is entitled to draw conclusions as part of an overall assessment of your employability. This can eventually lead to an employer deciding it dismiss an employee in a fair manner. I doubt that that is an issue for you in this case unless this happens to be the latest in a long line of previous absences for various sickness reasons.
Which is why am I asking in what way is your employer trying to 'do' you.

[joko]

how did you injure yourself... perhaps they are trying to discredit you for fear you will make a claim against them...

[grffindoor2011]

Usually you would have to sign a medical disclosure. Doctors don't just give out the info just because someone says they employ you.

You had a sick note. The reason given for why you were off is stated on that. So your wife told the employer a different reason. It doesn't matter. The sick note from the doc overrides this. As a former regional union rep...would have loved to get my hands on them over this.

[tinpusher6]

Thanks grffindoor ..... My Boss is trying to say that the Hospital said ONE thing and my wife said another,because she missed out the word "likely" and said i had broken a couple of ribs and the fact that the x-ray 2 weeks later said i hadn't broken any ribs,they are trying to say i am being dishonest,it's just crazy

[tinpusher6]

Joko,i slipped on ice at work and fell sideways on top of a traffic cone which injured my ribs and i am claiming compensation as the ramp wasn't gritted

[bob561941]

join a union if you can

[Prudie]

Aaaah now you say you are claiming industrial injury I understand why your employer might be looking for counter attacks (otherwise it made no odds what your wife said, you were signed off, end of).

[boxtops]

I agree with prudie, that puts a whole new light on it. I used to work in the field of employers' liability claims - their liability insurers wil almost certainly ask you to sign to release information from your medical records so they can assess your injuries. Are you claiming compensation through a solicitor or doing it yourself?

Incidentally if you have a claim in already, and you've written formally and it's been passed to their EL Insurance company, then your boss shouldn't be discussing the matter is with you at all, while the case is sub judice, otherwise it could prejudice the claim.

[ladybirder]

Golly my daughter could make a million. At least once a year she gets broken ribs and worse. She has had broken fingers and often shows me the bruises all over her body where she has been kicked and punched. She's had her glasses smashed into her face and been punched in the mouth so many times that she feared losing her front teeth. And she still goes into work every day because believe it or not she loves her job and the broken children she cares for. I'm not having a go at the OP, but just incredibly proud of her. And she's not on her own, there are many more like her.

[buildersmate]

Too late in the day you are now telling us that you are claiming for an industrial injury; it is not a case of an apparently bullying employer, harrassing you whilst you are off sick.
Small wonder, then, that you declined to answer my pertinent question asking whether the dishonesty allegation related to a disciplinary issue - the employer is merely attempting a defence to your allegation.
Give us the name of your employer and I'd be happy to advice them how best to defend against you. Employers are required to take reasonable steps to avoid accidents - that doesn't mean that every goddam step has to be salted to prevent predatory claims from unscrupulous people.

[Hopkirk]

I don't think they can grit airport ramps.

[Slidge]

@ Buildersmate, he has been back at work since Mid February with no light duties, just straight back to his normal job. He is not suing the Airline, but the Airport Authority who didn't grit the ramp area when the temperature was 4 degrees BELOW freezing. There was an aircraft coming onto the gate, the ramp should have been gritted........END OF

[tinpusher6]

With respect buildersmate,i'm not in the habit of claiming for anything i can get But thanks for tarring me with that brush