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Man Has Tuban Ripped Off By Thug, Yet Is Ostracized By His Community - Why?

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joko | 19:30 Tue 26th Feb 2013 | Religion & Spirituality
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284674/Dunkirk-thug-Ashley-Cicatello-rips-Sikh-mans-turban-causing-victim-shunned-community.html

quite aside from the disgusting behaviour of the pratt that did this, why would a whole community ostracize someone who has been the victim of the actions of another and it was out of his control?

now i know 'why' hes upset etc - they are not allowed to remove it in public etc - but why would they turn on him, knowing he didnt do it?
its not like he just took it off himself.
why would they not come out in support of him, comfort him, help him, why blame him?

this man is suffering - not because his turban was forcibly removed, but because of his so-called friends, neighbours and supposed kinsmen, because they have decided that the viewing of his hair is more important than the happiness and life of one of their own.

another example of the ridiculousness and abhorrent nature of religion.
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People can be cruel and mean. Some don't know what they are rallying for, they just follow the crowd.
Probably for the same reason some in the Asian community "blame" a girl after she has been raped, even if she has done nothing wrong at all.
It was claimed in court that the victim was ostracized by his own community. The prosecution were over egging the cake and trying to make the assault more serious.
Probably because he allowed it to happen.

Madness.
The prank caused the victim to be ostracised from his own community, it was claimed.



it was claimed.
If this bloke is employed, the company should sack him/ why. if he is employed this could effect the company's name / image.
From the DM article, “... Giving evidence he said: 'Taking a turban off a Sikh guy in public is just like hanging him in public. 'After this I was not able to face my colleagues. 'If this happened in India a man would never go to this place again, it is that disgraceful. 'My self-esteem and confidence - everything has been shattered because of this incident.'...”

The act of removing this guy's turban was a disgraceful and needless violation of this man's religious beliefs and I have much sympathy for him and much loathing for the moronic yob who did it. However, the claim that the public exposure for his hair is equivalent to being executed by public hanging is simply absurd.
This being the Daily Mail I have grave doubts as to the article's accuracy. All the Sikhs I know are the kindest people you could imagine.
I concur with Canary 100%.
afaic the Daily Mail is scum.
Canary42 -

No one's having a go a Sikh's as far as I can tell. I'm certainly not. All I'm saying is that if he or his solicitor/barrister said the words quoted in the DM article about the equivalence of hanging to exposing head-hair then in my opinion, that equivalence does not exist and is a gross exaggeration.

The operative word in my above paragraph being, “if”.
//the claim that the public exposure for his hair is equivalent to being executed by public hanging is simply absurd. //

Birdie's right. It is absurd. The idiot who pulled the turban off is a complete and utter prat - but I don't believe for a moment that the victim was ostracised by his community because of it. Wearing a turban isn’t absolutely obligatory for Sikhs.
The Mail and the mirror both have this and both use the word 'ostracise' if you read it carefully the Mail is attributing this word to the judge.

The quote was

'After this I was not able to face my colleagues.'

My suspicion here is that the judge used this term incorrectly and the press picked up on it.

I imagine the judge was trying to convey the impact on the victim's life but was trying to avoid the word 'shamed'.

I very much doubt the man's colleagues would have been anything other than sympathetic but his sense of humilliation meant a sort of self-ostracisation


Sorry unclear above the quote was from the victim not the judge
No different to the reactions to woman who have been raped...they can be made to actually marry the person who perpetrated the crime! Maybe they should review this belief....
Sorry. did not read the subsequent posts properly. His feeling only not the reactions of his fellow worshippers...and incidentally not sure if it is the Sikh way to treat women in the way I mentioned. Just up on bandwagon as usual. Please ignore...
Sikhism is nothing like Islam anngel, they treat their women as equals, not as property.
Seems to me that the word "ostracised" was a mere slip of the tongue. Probably meant that he felt isolated from his community.
I just asked one of my closest friends about this. He is a sikh. His reaction was "utter nonsense" (about the chap being ostracized etc).
My mate is a sikh, he doesn't wear a turban.
I saw a sikh man's turban get knocked off when he was on the dodgem cars once. He didn't seem particularly traumatised by it.

I hope they come down hard on this thug though. People should be able to go about their business without being assaulted by morons like this.

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