How Will You Vote At The Next General Election?

[anotheoldgit]

We have read in past posts that Cameron is finished, the Tories are finished, the Tory/LibDem coalition is finished, the LibDems are finished and UKIP haven't a cat in hells chance of winning the next election.

With all this in mind and the experiences of the disastrous 13 years of Blair's and Browns New Labour, how will you vote at the next General Election and why?

For those who give a positive "I'll vote labour" then by doing so will you expect Labour to reverse everything the Coalition has implemented during their term of office, so that things will go back to how they were during the Blair/Brown days?

[anotheoldgit]

shaneystar2

/// But don't worry I doubt I'll darken the door of your little right wing club any further .
Looking up at you on your very high horse is giving me a pain in the neck . ///

Funny you mentioning 'a pain in the neck' I also contacted one at 16.29 on Saturday 9th February 2013.

[anotheoldgit]

Before we part company on such a bad note let's just go back in time to my comment that first brought the insult from you.

/// A Tory will admit that they have been let down, but a Labour supporter will go on and on voting for Labour no matter what they throw at them, simply because "they are working class" and their grand parents voted for them and their parents also voted for them. ///

I fail to see any arrogance there, I was merely stating common knowledge, how many times have you recently heard Tories saying how disillusioned they are with both Cameron and the present government?

Also ask most Labour supporters and they will say the same, ie the Labour Party looks after the 'working man' but the Tories only look after the 'Toffs', notice also that I put, "they are working class" in inverted commas

/// For some strange reason they will carry on voting for them in the belief that Labour is the working man's party, but just as their union bosses they couldn't care a toss for them, it's look after
No 1 once they are voted in. ///

And all this was a criticism against Labour who are the same as most political parties and Unions alike they are mainly all in it for what they can get out themselves.

The old 'dedicated to his or her own constituents' are few and far between.

So why your aggressive insult?

/// What an arrogant man you are AOG. ///

[sp1814]

If the right wing of the Conservative Party broke away to form an alliance with UKIP, I could certainly see myself considering voting for the Tories (although I couldn't say whether I'd follow through).

I think that Cameron has a certain degree of personal integrity that I have never seen in a Tory party leader before. His stance on marriage equality has been impressive, because it's the first time that I can remember for a very long time that a politician has stuck his neck out for something he believes in rather than something that is simply 'politically expedient' or a vote-catcher.

[sp1814]

Actually - you could include Thatcher in that bracket of 'personal integrity'.

One never felt that she was a slave to opinion polls and according to the Hugo Young biography, personal popularity was never a goal.

...which is just as well, really.

[ichkeria]

Cameron reminds me much more of the now much-maligned Tony Blair actually - I.e. a leader prepared to defy his party over certain issues and consequently very unpopular with it. Of course Cameron's honeymoon with the electorate has been a lot more short-lived

[ichkeria]

and yet he is more popular than his party in the polls, as Blair was for a while

[DTCwordfan]

Mebyon Kernow or Communist

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// I think that Cameron has a certain degree of personal integrity that I have never seen in a Tory party leader before. His stance on marriage equality has been impressive, because it's the first time that I can remember for a very long time that a politician has stuck his neck out for something he believes in rather than something that is simply 'politically expedient' or a
vote-catcher. ///

I think Peter Hitchens has just about got it right, makes for some very interesting reading.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2276323/This-gay-affair-sex-marriages-just-excuse-Tory-divorce.html#axzz2KPXE0d8X

[sp1814]

I only hope that Peter Hitchens is right.

Ideally, UKIP would become a 'mid-Right' party, with the BNP taking up the far right, leaving the Conservatives to become a centralist party with 'right-leaning policies'.

Cameron is an urban liberal with a very gay-friendly wife. It's those liberal (small 'L') tendencies that will help his score with the Guardianistas and Islington mafia.

But first, he will have to sort out the right wing Tory dinosaurs

[sp1814]

Accidentally hit 'Submit'.

But first, he will have to sort out the right wing Tory dinosaurs, in the same way that Tony Blair sorted out the left wing dinosaurs in the early 90s.

It would be fantastic if we have more colour and contrast in politics. If we had a Far Right (BNP), Mid-Right (UKIP), Centre Right (Conservative) and Centre-Left (Labour) group of parties, politics would become interesting again.

How many of those who didn't vote at the last General Election did so, because they thought "all parties are the same?"

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Strange! In your futuristic Political Party list, although you included the 'Far-right' you failed to include the 'Far-Left'.

[Gromit]

// will you expect Labour to reverse everything the Coalition has implemented during their term of office //

It seems the Coalition do that themselves. They introduce a policy, say scrapping GCSEs, then they reverse the policy a few weeks later. I am honestly struggling to think of anything they have achieved so I cannot say Labour should reverse it.

[sp1814]

AOG

That's because there's no far left party, unless you know something I don't.

[ichkeria]

The interesting thing is that Tory MPs and even Peter Hitchens, may be right but they are out of touch with the public at large, as were a great number of the Labour Party in Blair's day (even though of course in that instance they WERE right :-) ! Cameron has surely grasped (unlike many of his MPs) that single sex marriage is not a vote loser whereas not appearing euro-sceptic enough might lose the party enough votes at the next election to be serious.

[FredPuli43]

aog,is it not "common knowledge" to you that there are life- long Conservative voters who will always vote that way, as loyally and unthinkingly, as any Labour voter, never changing?

Or do you believe that only working class Labour voters are capable of such lack of discretion?