Who is responsible for speed limits being updated on satnavs?

SpyWriter | 19:45 Sat 28th Jul 2012 | Law

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I recently received a speeding ticked due to my satnav being incorrect. Are authorities obliged to inform satnav manufacturers are kept up to date with changes?

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Those who gave smug but irrelevant answers instead of useful advice might like to know that through my FOI request it has been discovered the there were procedural anomalies in the Traffic Order making that particular speed limit invalid so there is no longer a case to answer. End of topic.

19:17 Mon 30th Jul 2012

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sherrardk

Well they were very quick replying then, they officially have up to twenty working days to do so.

hc4361

The police/council whoever have also dropped it extremely quickly

sherrardk

Just thinking the same HC.

thenry

the driver of the car is responsible for the speed limit.

bigbadmarty

In much the same way as shoplifters are responsible for the Theft Act , thenry?

SpyWriter

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I agree you should drive to the speed limit but there are legal processes that highway authorities must go to if they are to change the position of the start of a 30 and if they have failed to do so it is invalid. The inaccuracy of the satnav merely prompted me to wonder if something had not been done. As the FOI can take 20 working days and I had to reply to the police within 14 I also contacted the highways dept as well which is why I know there is a problem that is likely to prevent the police taking any action but why I have nothing in writing yet.

ojread2

You know when you know someone is not being truthful? Yeah, that

SpyWriter

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Easy to hide behind anonymity and accuse someone of lying. When there's a link in the local media about speeding penalties being refunded I will post it. You can save your apology until then

Traci66

Driving through France at the weekend I was pleased to see that the speed limit was 140, unfortunately this was kph not mph.

ojread2

Easy to hide behind anonymity and lie

Mick-Talbot

Fantastic bestest answer.... well done SpyWriter

grffindoor2011

What concerns me in all of this is that people are trusting a satnav to tell them if they are speeding. If you were competent to pass the driving test you will know the various speed limits in different areas.

If you received a speeding ticket, then you must have been at the the limit even taking into account the incorrect claim that 'speedometers are usually 10% out'. Whilst some speedos can show a slight difference, anymore than this can be caused by incorrect tyre pressures or overloading your vehicle.

I am guessing that someone else will be on here in the future arguing over a breathalyzer they bought from ebay should be accurate and their drink driving conviction shouldn't stand.

I'm not aware that any satnav is recognized by the dvla. Any speeding ticket is down to the individual not the equipment they choose to use additionally.

By the way did you know that satnavs cannot usually detect a change in height ie: when going up a hill? This will certainly make a difference and a big reason not to rely on them to keep legal.

SpyWriter

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I would not have taken the risk of using satnav as a defence, a £92 driver awareness course against a large fine and points on the licence is too big a risk to go to court for, but the fact that the satnav showed the speed limit changing at a different place made me wonder if the Traffic Order had been done correctly. All I know so far is that there is some sort of problem.

joko

similar thing happened to me - i drove at 70 on a road because the satnav had a 70 in a red circle in the corner - i just assumed it was correct - as you would expect - i got a ticket and whilst i was a bit irked, i hadnt updated it for a while, so i just paid up, because regardless of reason i was still speeding.
i would be angry too if i regularly paid for updates and this info was wrong though ... however ultimately its my responsibilty to check.
its correct now so must have been a recent change.
incidentally the photo of me on the road showed a few large lorries to my left which is possibly why missed the 60 sign at that moment

it did teach me not to rely on the satnavs speed limit info though.

joko

griffindor, its not the satnav saying hes speeding, its the incorrect speed limit sign displayed on the screen that is the problem.
spywriter i think is saying he thought he was driving at the correct speed limit because the roads limit had changed since his last update, not that he was using it as a speedometer

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