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Yet another kiddie fiddler has managed to ply his evil trade and has been able to groom at least one more innocent child right under its mother's nose. He has been "severely punished" with a wet lettuce leaf and given 4 months inside. (He may well have been released by the time I've finished typing!)
It proves, does it not, that the present system is deeply flawed? Maybe the introduction of "Sarah's Law", where paedos are "named, shamed" and the address of the sewer they're presently living in is made known to the wider community, would nip such atrocities in the bud?
Or do the "bleeding hearts" win the day again by arguing that the "human rights" of the pervert are far more precious than the safety of innocent children? Woops, no, we daren't risk having vigilante patrols on the streets. No, let our kids suffer instead, eh?
http://www.newsofthew...-reveal-his-name.html
It proves, does it not, that the present system is deeply flawed? Maybe the introduction of "Sarah's Law", where paedos are "named, shamed" and the address of the sewer they're presently living in is made known to the wider community, would nip such atrocities in the bud?
Or do the "bleeding hearts" win the day again by arguing that the "human rights" of the pervert are far more precious than the safety of innocent children? Woops, no, we daren't risk having vigilante patrols on the streets. No, let our kids suffer instead, eh?
http://www.newsofthew...-reveal-his-name.html
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He should have it cut off , he should , he should
What about the evil bints
http://www.thesun.co....ame-your-victims.html
What about the evil bints
http://www.thesun.co....ame-your-victims.html
Joeluke – You clearly cannot control your overwhelming hatred of homosexual men. However, this thread was originally about Sarah's law and how paedophiles are treated in society when they are identified. Statistically, paedophiles are not predominantly homosexual – quite the reverse in fact – so why you've seen fit to link the two together is a mystery.
If you want to discuss your ideas about the morality of homosexual men, why don't you pose a specific question on this matter in another thread? I suggest the Society and Culture section.
If you want to discuss your ideas about the morality of homosexual men, why don't you pose a specific question on this matter in another thread? I suggest the Society and Culture section.
OrcadianOil -
“... government controlled operation whereby parents of young children may get access to the Sex Offenders Register to alert them to a convicted paedophile who may be living in their area... It is not a green light to vigilante groups to roam the streets looking for, and "dealing with", convicted kiddie fiddlers. Far from it.”
'Sarah's Law' is well intentioned but fundamentally flawed because it will be abused in exactly the way you have described – concerned parents will find out that a convicted paedophile lives nearby, it will be whispered outside the school gates to other 'concerned' parents and before you know it, everyone knows the identity of the 'nonce' and it will only be a matter of time before some outraged, self-righteous, knuckle-dragging moron (who probably doesn't even have kids) squirts petrol into his letterbox and torches the place, killing him and his immediate neighbours. That is assuming of course, that the moron in question targets the correct house...
The above is not a hypothetical scenario – it has happened on more than one occasion and will happen with increasing regularity if 'Sarah's Law' is enshrined in Statute.
As a former Police Officer, you should know that the general public is hopeless at dealing rationally with this sort of information and that the phenomenon of 'Chinese Whispers' is very real indeed.
Entirely innocent people will be murdered if the sex offenders register becomes public knowledge.
“... government controlled operation whereby parents of young children may get access to the Sex Offenders Register to alert them to a convicted paedophile who may be living in their area... It is not a green light to vigilante groups to roam the streets looking for, and "dealing with", convicted kiddie fiddlers. Far from it.”
'Sarah's Law' is well intentioned but fundamentally flawed because it will be abused in exactly the way you have described – concerned parents will find out that a convicted paedophile lives nearby, it will be whispered outside the school gates to other 'concerned' parents and before you know it, everyone knows the identity of the 'nonce' and it will only be a matter of time before some outraged, self-righteous, knuckle-dragging moron (who probably doesn't even have kids) squirts petrol into his letterbox and torches the place, killing him and his immediate neighbours. That is assuming of course, that the moron in question targets the correct house...
The above is not a hypothetical scenario – it has happened on more than one occasion and will happen with increasing regularity if 'Sarah's Law' is enshrined in Statute.
As a former Police Officer, you should know that the general public is hopeless at dealing rationally with this sort of information and that the phenomenon of 'Chinese Whispers' is very real indeed.
Entirely innocent people will be murdered if the sex offenders register becomes public knowledge.
birdie1971,
Yes, I'm well aware of what you've described. However, your post is utterly defeatist, i.e. you're patronising "Sarah's Law", but at the same time are saying that because there have been a few well documented incidents that we may as well not bother? That is the message in your post.
Well, what if the Police in Northumberland in the ongoing incident in the news for the past 3 days, live coverage of which is going on of a search in the countryside there, what if those Officers refused to search for this guy on the basis that he is armed and has a hatred of the Police? Do they just give up because of that? In case they get shot?
No, unless we have something akin to "Sarah's Law" implemented, these monsters who prey on the innocent in society will continue unabated. We cannot afford to just sit on our hands as you advocate.
Yes, I'm well aware of what you've described. However, your post is utterly defeatist, i.e. you're patronising "Sarah's Law", but at the same time are saying that because there have been a few well documented incidents that we may as well not bother? That is the message in your post.
Well, what if the Police in Northumberland in the ongoing incident in the news for the past 3 days, live coverage of which is going on of a search in the countryside there, what if those Officers refused to search for this guy on the basis that he is armed and has a hatred of the Police? Do they just give up because of that? In case they get shot?
No, unless we have something akin to "Sarah's Law" implemented, these monsters who prey on the innocent in society will continue unabated. We cannot afford to just sit on our hands as you advocate.
OrcadianOil -
Sorry, but you have clearly misunderstood my post - specifically the last sentence. It read...
“Entirely innocent people will be murdered if the sex offenders register becomes public knowledge.”
What you are suggesting is that the lives of wholly innocent people who are mistakenly identified as paedophiles are less important that a parent's right to know if a sex offender is living nearby. I utterly disagree.
Oh, and the Northumberland thing – why did you bring that into the debate? It's got nothing to do with what is being discussed.
“No, unless we have something akin to "Sarah's Law" implemented, these monsters who prey on the innocent in society will continue unabated. We cannot afford to just sit on our hands as you advocate.”
Doing nothing is better than doing something stupid.
Sorry, but you have clearly misunderstood my post - specifically the last sentence. It read...
“Entirely innocent people will be murdered if the sex offenders register becomes public knowledge.”
What you are suggesting is that the lives of wholly innocent people who are mistakenly identified as paedophiles are less important that a parent's right to know if a sex offender is living nearby. I utterly disagree.
Oh, and the Northumberland thing – why did you bring that into the debate? It's got nothing to do with what is being discussed.
“No, unless we have something akin to "Sarah's Law" implemented, these monsters who prey on the innocent in society will continue unabated. We cannot afford to just sit on our hands as you advocate.”
Doing nothing is better than doing something stupid.
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You would be amazed what can get someone on the sex offenders list these days, making the register public would be a big mistake, but steps need taking to protect our children. My eldest daughter has no common sense at all, where as my youngest, I have no worries at all. Hell she wont talk to me most of the time ha ha
Chelle7272 -
“Entirely innocent children will have their lives destroyed or lost if it doesn't.”
I almost agree with you but you're sort of suggesting that every person convicted of a sexual crime against children and subsequently released will re-offend. Some will, I agree – but the vast majority won't and don't.
Knowing where these people live will not make yours or anyone else's kids safer. How could it? What do you say to your kids? - “Don't go near such-and-such's house because he'll hurt you?”. How is that different from telling your kids not to talk to strangers?
I spent several years as police officer and believe you me, I have no sympathy for these despicable individuals. However, I honestly think that putting the sex offenders register in the public domain is a terrible idea and will give knuckle-dragging morons the 'moral' excuse to start assaulting anyone who looks like, has a name similar to, or even is a friend or neighbour of a convicted paedophile (even if that friend or neighbour is unaware of person's criminal record).
The only realistic outcome of this law is the lynch mob. And lynch mobs are notoriously stupid and often target the wrong person.
“Entirely innocent children will have their lives destroyed or lost if it doesn't.”
I almost agree with you but you're sort of suggesting that every person convicted of a sexual crime against children and subsequently released will re-offend. Some will, I agree – but the vast majority won't and don't.
Knowing where these people live will not make yours or anyone else's kids safer. How could it? What do you say to your kids? - “Don't go near such-and-such's house because he'll hurt you?”. How is that different from telling your kids not to talk to strangers?
I spent several years as police officer and believe you me, I have no sympathy for these despicable individuals. However, I honestly think that putting the sex offenders register in the public domain is a terrible idea and will give knuckle-dragging morons the 'moral' excuse to start assaulting anyone who looks like, has a name similar to, or even is a friend or neighbour of a convicted paedophile (even if that friend or neighbour is unaware of person's criminal record).
The only realistic outcome of this law is the lynch mob. And lynch mobs are notoriously stupid and often target the wrong person.
Sorry to bang on about this but it's a sad fact that had 'Sarah's Law' been in place when Sarah Payne was abducted by Roy Whiting, it wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference as he lived 5 miles away from Sarah and her paternal grand-parents.
Five miles is not exactly round the corner is it?
However, if anyone's arguing for Sarah's Law so that Roy Whiting should have been killed by a lynch mob then that's a different debate entirely.
Five miles is not exactly round the corner is it?
However, if anyone's arguing for Sarah's Law so that Roy Whiting should have been killed by a lynch mob then that's a different debate entirely.
The USA have a similar thing – it's called “Megan's Law”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan%27s_Law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan%27s_Law
Why don't people on this board once and for all get wise to certain ABers - e.g. that anotheoldgit is Edna Welthorpe (look it up if you're not sure) and joe luke is a brainless bigot, and stop rising to the bait.
Interesting thing on the Bad Science site about hysterical media claims regarding "Sarah's Law" - newspapers as usual being stupid and clueless about stats, though this time abetted by the Home Office.
Interesting thing on the Bad Science site about hysterical media claims regarding "Sarah's Law" - newspapers as usual being stupid and clueless about stats, though this time abetted by the Home Office.
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