ST Cryptic 21 Aug.

[shaneystar]

Stuck on these last two.
29d Not all quiet spoken
P?E??
42a Mum,the top'scome off the second!
?S???

[hobbitess]

29d piece

[shaneystar]

Thank you hobbitess.
i stared at this for ages and it was so obvious!!!

[crofter]

What about (H)USHER?

[shaneystar]

Thanks crofter but this doesn't fit with 35d which I am pretty sure is correct.
No end worried about them when recovering...which is
On the mend.
So I have gone with ..Other ,someone coming second ..the other.
Bit vague but all I can come up with !

[kosoro]

Could it be ESTOP to stop somebody from talking ,,to keep mum

[shaneystar]

Plus with Piece being correct this now makes 42a
?T?E?.

[shaneystar]

Kosoro you are a star. I think this is the right answer.
thank you.

[shaneystar]

No it can't be estop having stared at it again.
You are still a star though!
It's ?T?E?

[hobbitess]

42a other?

[shaneystar]

Other is correct ...I.think!
Thank you all for your help.

[Quizmonster]

How about OTHER? That's (M)OTHER - ie 'mum' with its top off and one meaning of 'other' is 'second', as in "My other car is a Porsche.

[Quizmonster]

Aw for goodness' sake! Three of us scribbling more or less simultaneously, it seems

[Quizmonster]

I'm a bit puzzled here. When I started to write my answer offering 'other' the 1144 and 1145 responses were definitely not visible on the page. Yet mine is timed a clear six minutes later. Is there some sort of delay in displaying answers?

[kosoro]

Glad you sorted it out shaneystar it was nice to be a star for a couple of minutes  KOSORO

[shaneystar]

During all this my question disappeared off the page completely.Then it submited one post without me pressing the submit box! Gremlins at work.
Thanks for all your help folks, once again.