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Gormless | 20:47 Tue 24th Mar 2009 | News
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Did anybody see it?

Pakistan, Swot Valley or whatever, great stuff, coming to Britain soon.

Allah is your friend - unless of course you are White, Gay, female, Jewish (most especially), Western, French, ect ect.

Great times are on the way! Rejoice.
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Sweep2k

You've hit the nail so very squarely on the head.

Remember that story about the gay couple who adopted that grandchild in preference to the child's grandparents?

The homophobia came streaming out from the usual suspects.

Now all of a sudden they're standing 'shoulder to shoulder with they gay buddies'.

Olympic-levels of hypocrasy.

their gay buddies.
I'm off to the gym now. But whilst I'm away, could someone please describe to me exactly how they think Islamic law will be incorporated into the statute books.

Seriously - give it a go. I want specifics, rather than, "It's happen one day...we're going to be in the minority in 10 years".

I want you to describe to me, exactly how you see it happening.

Also, whilst we're at it, could you explain the maths regarding how Muslims will be the majority religious group in the UK, when they make up 2.7% of the population at the moment.

For Islam to become the dominant religion in the UK, they would have to form 51% of the population, right?

So with the population of the UK current standing at 60,943,912 (according to government figures), there would have to be the mother of all population explosions amongst Muslims for Islam to become the dominant faith.

30 million Muslim births or conversions in 10 years.

Not sure if that is feasible.
I think that could very well happen sp, I raised this point on Monday and was ridiculed by ???? and debated with others I for one, don't want my country to go any further down the road of appeasment to the absolute nutcases you see spouting their trash in the likes of Hyde Park, am I wrong to want them moved on or even detained under the "causing incitement"law? I am sick of hearing the "won't happen to us" doesn't that make us a complacent Nation or as it was put in my post, lilly-livered hand wringers!!! Maybe not in 10 yrs or even 20yrs, but we all have family younger than us, what kind of legacy are we leaving?
My last Qs to anybody, How come the likes of Choudry, Hamza and the others who spit out their hatred of the West, how come they don't become the martyrs and sit on the right of Allah with virgins seeing to their every whim, BLOW themselves up, if it's so good up there with Allah,,,.. What's keeping them down here? ummmm benifits perhaps!
Joy11

Actually, I see your point. I mean, look what happened in Australia!!!

We don't want to become the Aborigines of Europe!
I don't benefit...!!!
There is a wide chasm between complacency and teeth-gnashing paranoia. Or lily-livered hand-wringing, whichever you prefer.

The UK is becoming more and more secular. That means, although we believe in freedom of belief, it's increasingly less enshrined in our system of government.

The stats support this. In fact, sp's don't go far enough - the 30 million is a net figure. His figure of 30 million births and conversions should have read 30 million more births/conversions than deaths/'unconversions'.
laffinnnn at ummm, sorry I'm sure you don't! not sure about the tongue in cheek remark by sp though, Aborigines of Europe? I was trying make a serious point, unless I have missed something here, sorry again ummm, fraudlent slip he-he
Good point Sweep, still a healthy debate like this is better than a lot of the nasty bits that go on in some other posts!
I know Joy....it made me smile. People say 'ummmm' all the time on here.
sp1814, they don't need that many, Blair won a land slide in 97 with only 25% of the electorate voting for him. Under our system, Islam would have to get enough MP's and then change the rules. I reckon at their current rate it'll take about 30 to 40 years.
I believe Sharia Law will happen, maybe not for another 15-20 years, but happen it will, and it;ll be either by insurrection, or putting them in No10, and if that happens, Democracy in this country goes.

Look back on this country 10, 15, 20 years ago, then look at Pakistan now, and your looking at this countries future.

So you're saying that a nation that defeated the evil of Nazism would roll over and accept Muslim fundamentalism?

Cobblers.

Get thyself down to a public library and check out the front pages of the nation papers from the day after 7/7.

I believe you will see evidence of British stocism.

No idea how the word 'stocism' is spelled, but you get what I mean.
I have no doubt that Sharia Law would be applied in this country. Only difference would be that It may not be called Sharia Law.

People are fed up with binge drinking, drink related crimes, accidents, benefit cheats due to that and more. More and more people are talking about the ill factors. so one day law will have to be changed. Perhaps a limited ban on drinking.

More and more people are having problems with unwanted yobs on the streets, who are their fathers? who is responsible for their proper upbringing? what is missing. Is it due to sex without marriage (commitment). One MP has recently spoken about it, sometime law will have to be changed.

More and more violence in our streets, more than ever people are talking about bringing back capital punishments.

Ban on drinking, more commitment to children, capital punishment. Don't call it Sharia Law, call whatever you want, but it is needed. Or keep trying other options and see if it gives the result, keep watching, I surely am.
Yes sp, thats exactly whats going to happen, this isn't the same nation as it was in 39-45, take a look at this country now, go to virtually any town, the personality and pride has changed immensley, mostly in the last eleven years.

Actually, it might not happen, if it doesn't happen peacefully, you'll be looking at civil strife on a massive scale.
No idea how the word 'stocism' is spelled, but you get what I mean

Stoicism, dear.
SP: If they get in legally under our own system then there's only revolution left mate. I'd rather nip it in the bud, wouldn't you?

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