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War crimes accusation
I know a lot of you tend not to read the links I put up, but please read this one, you don't have to believe what irt says, although that would be hard, just read it.
http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/middleeast/Th e_Phony_War_Crimes_Accusation.asp
http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/middleeast/Th e_Phony_War_Crimes_Accusation.asp
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naomi, as I have mentioned several times on these threads, I do know these people and have spent several years in Arab countries. People must and have to be aware of what the Israelis are capable of. DrFilth has made mention of just a few instances. We keep hearing about the "holocaust" but correct me if I am wrong, I was under the impression that Fritz Haber developed the poisonous gas which killed thousands of allied troops.
Harping on about the past doesn't solve the problem. We know it was wrong, but we can't change it. We need to look to the future and address the situation that we have now. I've also been to many Arab countries, and seen at first hand Palestinian refugee camps - not a pretty sight - but in addition I've seen the Muslim mindset change out of all recognition over recent years, and I think this is what people aren't taking into account.
Right, I'm saying no more.
Night.
Right, I'm saying no more.
Night.
Ah Cugetit, so it's not simply Israel that you hate so much: its the Jews. All these Jewish controlled governments? You mentioned some old US politicians, so would you like to name all these western governments that are 'Jewish controlled'?
I am sure Hamas would welcome you joining them - providing you are a fanatical Muslim and have left your brain behind. See, you're half way there already.
I am sure Hamas would welcome you joining them - providing you are a fanatical Muslim and have left your brain behind. See, you're half way there already.
Raleigh, you've said what I could only intimate at, concerning Cugetit, his/her views were made blatentenly obvious on other threads.
naomi, thanks for the way you answered, shame others don't take a leaf out of your book, I don't mind if someones views are opposite to mine, just the way its put.
Thats debate.
As for whats on the link, I challenge the people on here to prove its not true.
naomi, thanks for the way you answered, shame others don't take a leaf out of your book, I don't mind if someones views are opposite to mine, just the way its put.
Thats debate.
As for whats on the link, I challenge the people on here to prove its not true.
this is my post from monday
DrFilth
Mon 26/01/09
09:24 well i have read all that, i like the first couple of lines from the first reply.
why did not Israel left the redcross enter Gaza to help civilians ? Why couldn't we have any media over there ?
may i answer his questions . WAR CRIMES that's why
Can you PLEASE answer my questions lonnie
Who placed the bombs in the king david hotel
Who hanged british soldiers
for some reason jewish people never answer my questions
.As for dolly's post even most of the germans in the second world war did not know about the camps let alone the british and americans who went into germany.
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give them back there land . then and only then we may have peace.
PS. I have read your link do you read mine.
can lonnie answer my questions PLEASE
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DrFilth
Mon 26/01/09
09:24 well i have read all that, i like the first couple of lines from the first reply.
why did not Israel left the redcross enter Gaza to help civilians ? Why couldn't we have any media over there ?
may i answer his questions . WAR CRIMES that's why
Can you PLEASE answer my questions lonnie
Who placed the bombs in the king david hotel
Who hanged british soldiers
for some reason jewish people never answer my questions
.As for dolly's post even most of the germans in the second world war did not know about the camps let alone the british and americans who went into germany.
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give them back there land . then and only then we may have peace.
PS. I have read your link do you read mine.
can lonnie answer my questions PLEASE
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DrFilth
So...is it true that the Palestinians were living in the region, then the Western allies said, "Sorry peeps, but we're going to create a new Jewish state there so could you please skedaddle"?
Is that what happened?
Did anyone pause and say, "Hang on...Jews and Muslims living next door to each other...perhaps not the best idea".
Seriously - does anyone have a (non-biased) site I can go to, to read up on this?
So...is it true that the Palestinians were living in the region, then the Western allies said, "Sorry peeps, but we're going to create a new Jewish state there so could you please skedaddle"?
Is that what happened?
Did anyone pause and say, "Hang on...Jews and Muslims living next door to each other...perhaps not the best idea".
Seriously - does anyone have a (non-biased) site I can go to, to read up on this?
the jewish people wanted a homeland , if you read history books you will get a better view of the idea. ho hamas in them days the trouble was from jewish groups.
that it why lonnie will not answer my questions. if you speak out, you are are classed as anti jewish.
the jews are using the same trick used by people who will not allow you to talk about immigration , you are a racist
jews , muslims , christians and others lived there in peace.
that it why lonnie will not answer my questions. if you speak out, you are are classed as anti jewish.
the jews are using the same trick used by people who will not allow you to talk about immigration , you are a racist
jews , muslims , christians and others lived there in peace.
sp1814 pleas have a look at this link
maxximus
Thurs 22/01/09
00:56 how true cugetit. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-rCBJjCiLGc
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this is from a jewish person
maxximus
Thurs 22/01/09
00:56 how true cugetit. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-rCBJjCiLGc
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this is from a jewish person
That's right. Lonnie, you don't like discussing events that go against the grain, as far as you are concerned ...... Jewish terrorists, Gaza seige, latest technological weapons (supplied by USA) versus homemade rockets, prevention of Press and humanitarian aid to Gaza. There are so many examples. Some people just do not like the truth !!!
at long last an answer
the King David Hotel was shameful affair, but i'm not talking about that time,
the state of israel was founded in 1948 after the british gave up because of the jewish terror campaign .
knowing that they could not reach an agreement with the jews and arabs they handed over the land to the newly formed united nations.
ever since then the jews have wanted more and more land .
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1948 what a good year
the King David Hotel was shameful affair, but i'm not talking about that time,
the state of israel was founded in 1948 after the british gave up because of the jewish terror campaign .
knowing that they could not reach an agreement with the jews and arabs they handed over the land to the newly formed united nations.
ever since then the jews have wanted more and more land .
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1948 what a good year
Cugetit - �Some people just do not like the truth !!! �
You seem to think that Hamas can do no wrong and that Israel are pure evil. The truth is somewhere in between.
Just so you know, I'm anti-Hamas. However, that does not make me pro-Israeli. I've written about the stupidity and bloodymindedness of Hamas several times, so this time I'll quote a guy called Andrew Roberts who writes for The Times...
�I can't help thinking that if you're dissatisfied with your lot and decide that the right way to address it is to plant bombs or lob rockets at other people, you shouldn't be too surprised if they start lobbing them back.
�
And if you've chosen an opponent who's got bigger bombs than you, well � what did you think was going to happen? Or ... wait! Maybe you knew what was going to happen, and you thought it would be good because then everyone would be on your side? If that's so, then it was well planned. I'm sure the 1,300 dead people are really delighted you've been so clever.
...
[speaking about the distribution of aid]...
After Hamas seized total control of Gaza in June 2007 there have been many well-documented reports of Hamas officials diverting assistance for themselves. On February 7 last year, for example, the Deutsche Presse-Agentur reported that "at least ten trucks with humanitarian aid sent to the Gaza Strip by the Jordanian Red Crescent Society were confiscated by Hamas police shortly after the lorries entered the territory". Journalists also reported that the aid was "unloaded in Hamas ministry warehouses" and that a similar seizure took place in January 2008.
�
Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the founder of Hamas, used to say that Hamas was like a bird that needed two wings to fly - the armed branch, but also the charitable-welfare side of the organisation.�
You seem to think that Hamas can do no wrong and that Israel are pure evil. The truth is somewhere in between.
Just so you know, I'm anti-Hamas. However, that does not make me pro-Israeli. I've written about the stupidity and bloodymindedness of Hamas several times, so this time I'll quote a guy called Andrew Roberts who writes for The Times...
�I can't help thinking that if you're dissatisfied with your lot and decide that the right way to address it is to plant bombs or lob rockets at other people, you shouldn't be too surprised if they start lobbing them back.
�
And if you've chosen an opponent who's got bigger bombs than you, well � what did you think was going to happen? Or ... wait! Maybe you knew what was going to happen, and you thought it would be good because then everyone would be on your side? If that's so, then it was well planned. I'm sure the 1,300 dead people are really delighted you've been so clever.
...
[speaking about the distribution of aid]...
After Hamas seized total control of Gaza in June 2007 there have been many well-documented reports of Hamas officials diverting assistance for themselves. On February 7 last year, for example, the Deutsche Presse-Agentur reported that "at least ten trucks with humanitarian aid sent to the Gaza Strip by the Jordanian Red Crescent Society were confiscated by Hamas police shortly after the lorries entered the territory". Journalists also reported that the aid was "unloaded in Hamas ministry warehouses" and that a similar seizure took place in January 2008.
�
Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the founder of Hamas, used to say that Hamas was like a bird that needed two wings to fly - the armed branch, but also the charitable-welfare side of the organisation.�
Cugetit - �Some people just do not like the truth !!! �
You seem to think that Hamas can do no wrong and that Israel are pure evil. The truth is somewhere in between.
Just so you know, I'm anti-Hamas. However, that does not make me pro-Israeli. I've written about the stupidity and bloodymindedness of Hamas several times, so this time I'll quote a guy called Andrew Roberts who writes for The Times...
�I can't help thinking that if you're dissatisfied with your lot and decide that the right way to address it is to plant bombs or lob rockets at other people, you shouldn't be too surprised if they start lobbing them back.
�
And if you've chosen an opponent who's got bigger bombs than you, well � what did you think was going to happen? Or ... wait! Maybe you knew what was going to happen, and you thought it would be good because then everyone would be on your side? If that's so, then it was well planned. I'm sure the 1,300 dead people are really delighted you've been so clever.
...
[speaking about the distribution of aid]...
After Hamas seized total control of Gaza in June 2007 there have been many well-documented reports of Hamas officials diverting assistance for themselves. On February 7 last year, for example, the Deutsche Presse-Agentur reported that "at least ten trucks with humanitarian aid sent to the Gaza Strip by the Jordanian Red Crescent Society were confiscated by Hamas police shortly after the lorries entered the territory". Journalists also reported that the aid was "unloaded in Hamas ministry warehouses" and that a similar seizure took place in January 2008.
�
Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the founder of Hamas, used to say that Hamas was like a bird that needed two wings to fly - the armed branch, but also the charitable-welfare side of the organisation.�
Hamas eh?
Clearly, beyond reproach.
You seem to think that Hamas can do no wrong and that Israel are pure evil. The truth is somewhere in between.
Just so you know, I'm anti-Hamas. However, that does not make me pro-Israeli. I've written about the stupidity and bloodymindedness of Hamas several times, so this time I'll quote a guy called Andrew Roberts who writes for The Times...
�I can't help thinking that if you're dissatisfied with your lot and decide that the right way to address it is to plant bombs or lob rockets at other people, you shouldn't be too surprised if they start lobbing them back.
�
And if you've chosen an opponent who's got bigger bombs than you, well � what did you think was going to happen? Or ... wait! Maybe you knew what was going to happen, and you thought it would be good because then everyone would be on your side? If that's so, then it was well planned. I'm sure the 1,300 dead people are really delighted you've been so clever.
...
[speaking about the distribution of aid]...
After Hamas seized total control of Gaza in June 2007 there have been many well-documented reports of Hamas officials diverting assistance for themselves. On February 7 last year, for example, the Deutsche Presse-Agentur reported that "at least ten trucks with humanitarian aid sent to the Gaza Strip by the Jordanian Red Crescent Society were confiscated by Hamas police shortly after the lorries entered the territory". Journalists also reported that the aid was "unloaded in Hamas ministry warehouses" and that a similar seizure took place in January 2008.
�
Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the founder of Hamas, used to say that Hamas was like a bird that needed two wings to fly - the armed branch, but also the charitable-welfare side of the organisation.�
Hamas eh?
Clearly, beyond reproach.
Wonder why we didn't bomb the hell out of Eire when there were "terrorists" killing innocents on the the mainland here. You should have listened to Jimmy Carter's recent speech when he agrees with what I saw in a recent response regarding the Middle East ...... "not only were the ambassadors for peace, sent by the US in the past, pro Israeli but some were actually working for Israel." He is holding out more hope for a fairer deal from Mitchell but we will have to wait and see. We keep hearing about Hamas not being recognized as lawful." If that is the case then how can one expect them to abide by rules. If there was a criminal in this country holding a house with a dozen hostages in it, that criminal having shot and killed several people, what do the police do? "Just blow it up"!!!? hth
The Jews believe the land was given to them by God and will not be satisfied until the entire "Promised Land" is in their hands by any means available and all others are driven out.
They uphold the success of the mass genocides conducted by the Israelites and reported in the Old Testament as evidence for the divine providence for their state.
And they would happily commit blatant genocide again if they thought they would get away with it. Instead they destroy the food and shelter of civilians while shutting out the international media. The goal is the same and so is the crime.
I have nothing against Jews per se. However their religious beliefs are a blight and lie at the foundation of their crimes against humanity.
It is surely the most profound hypocracy that they exalt the genocides conducted by their heroic ancestors while bitterly complaining of their treatment by the Nazis. Genocide is an abomination No exceptions for the "Chosen People".
Just in case anyone wants to accuse me of being biassed toward the Arabs I will add that the religious beliefs dreamed up by Mohammed are little different and equally disgusting.
They uphold the success of the mass genocides conducted by the Israelites and reported in the Old Testament as evidence for the divine providence for their state.
And they would happily commit blatant genocide again if they thought they would get away with it. Instead they destroy the food and shelter of civilians while shutting out the international media. The goal is the same and so is the crime.
I have nothing against Jews per se. However their religious beliefs are a blight and lie at the foundation of their crimes against humanity.
It is surely the most profound hypocracy that they exalt the genocides conducted by their heroic ancestors while bitterly complaining of their treatment by the Nazis. Genocide is an abomination No exceptions for the "Chosen People".
Just in case anyone wants to accuse me of being biassed toward the Arabs I will add that the religious beliefs dreamed up by Mohammed are little different and equally disgusting.
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