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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7471784.stm
This new drug that comes with a risk of depression and suicide is about to be made available on the NHS.
What are your thoughts on this? Should we all pay taxes so that people who cant be bothered to look after themselves properly get expensive treatment from the NHS to make them a more normal weight?
Is it right for the NHS to risk put patients at risk of adverse side effects with medication?
This new drug that comes with a risk of depression and suicide is about to be made available on the NHS.
What are your thoughts on this? Should we all pay taxes so that people who cant be bothered to look after themselves properly get expensive treatment from the NHS to make them a more normal weight?
Is it right for the NHS to risk put patients at risk of adverse side effects with medication?
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I'm not sure.
If these fat disgusting lardies lost weight, then they are less likely to need expensive treatments in the future arising from their chronic gluttony, and the NHS and the tax payer will save zillions of pounds.
But then we would have one less group to pick on. Unless the side effects resulted in a new sub-group of 'not normal' people that we could feel better than.
If these fat disgusting lardies lost weight, then they are less likely to need expensive treatments in the future arising from their chronic gluttony, and the NHS and the tax payer will save zillions of pounds.
But then we would have one less group to pick on. Unless the side effects resulted in a new sub-group of 'not normal' people that we could feel better than.
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The NHS doesn't descriminate (normally) on the basis of how people came by their health problems.
They treat people for smoking and alcohol issues.
They even patch up people who can't control a lawn mower and we'll draw a discrete veil over SARA cases.
When you start making such judgement's it's difficult to know where the line should be drawn.
There are many dangerous drugs available for prescription. That's why they're on prescription in the first place - it's a matter of balancing risk and benefit.
They treat people for smoking and alcohol issues.
They even patch up people who can't control a lawn mower and we'll draw a discrete veil over SARA cases.
When you start making such judgement's it's difficult to know where the line should be drawn.
There are many dangerous drugs available for prescription. That's why they're on prescription in the first place - it's a matter of balancing risk and benefit.
True but you missed my point... if your fat you should eat less and move more not take bleeding pills and not get everyone else to pay for things.
if someone has a genetic disorder and cant help being obese then fair enough but a lifetime habit of eating and not doing anything makes people fat there is no to ways about it and I don�t feel that we should all be paying for these people to have anti fat pills.
A good friend of mine got diagnosed as obese and with high cholesterol. The doc gave him a year to live if he doesn�t change his ways. that was two months ago and I can say he is a changed man his cholesterol levels are below average now and he has shed a load of blubber all from a little bit of exercise and a better diet.
if people cant force themselves to change frankly they deserve to die you are what you eat after all.
if someone has a genetic disorder and cant help being obese then fair enough but a lifetime habit of eating and not doing anything makes people fat there is no to ways about it and I don�t feel that we should all be paying for these people to have anti fat pills.
A good friend of mine got diagnosed as obese and with high cholesterol. The doc gave him a year to live if he doesn�t change his ways. that was two months ago and I can say he is a changed man his cholesterol levels are below average now and he has shed a load of blubber all from a little bit of exercise and a better diet.
if people cant force themselves to change frankly they deserve to die you are what you eat after all.
Might I also add that the level of taxation on alcohol and fags is such that it provides a huge amount of money which (I will say could instead of is) could be used to fund the NHS. I have no issue with a drug that has side effects as long as it prolongs the life of the sufferer but self induced suffering from over eating just doesn�t justify itself for me you don�t get fat over night it actually takes effort to eat that much food (and with today�s prices a loan as well).
Accidents happen but you don�t get fat by accident.
Accidents happen but you don�t get fat by accident.
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IS it the pills that cause the problems or is it the natural depression that comes with suicide. Surely something like depression is very hard to distinguish what is causing it.
When I literally couldnt lose weight for eating 1200 calories aday and going to the gym for two hours every other day I begged my doctor to give me orlistat but he was very against it. He said I wasn't fat enough and even if I was he said the drugs were very new and had concerns as to what the side effects in years to come would be. He did some test and found i needed metformin to help my insulin receptors andI started losing weight immediately but the only reason I put the weight on in the first place was because I ate like two pigs when I was pregnant.
I'm inclined to agree with darkm, if you have a thyroid problem, insulin resistance etc then these can be treated but its not rocket science, you eat less exercise more. There does seem to be a big thing of I'm fat and its not my fault. I expect the percentage of people who really cannot help themselves is minute and gluttony and mental health problems are mostly at large.
The results achieved from gastric banding and bypasses are marvellous though, I think as a long term solution these are great for the patient and cost a lot less than the fat related diseases these people would suffer later in life and surely it has to totally adjust a patients relationship with food.
When I literally couldnt lose weight for eating 1200 calories aday and going to the gym for two hours every other day I begged my doctor to give me orlistat but he was very against it. He said I wasn't fat enough and even if I was he said the drugs were very new and had concerns as to what the side effects in years to come would be. He did some test and found i needed metformin to help my insulin receptors andI started losing weight immediately but the only reason I put the weight on in the first place was because I ate like two pigs when I was pregnant.
I'm inclined to agree with darkm, if you have a thyroid problem, insulin resistance etc then these can be treated but its not rocket science, you eat less exercise more. There does seem to be a big thing of I'm fat and its not my fault. I expect the percentage of people who really cannot help themselves is minute and gluttony and mental health problems are mostly at large.
The results achieved from gastric banding and bypasses are marvellous though, I think as a long term solution these are great for the patient and cost a lot less than the fat related diseases these people would suffer later in life and surely it has to totally adjust a patients relationship with food.
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