Gays

[kwicky]

Why is there a higher incidence of gays in the clergy or the masons?

[honest_joe]

Sexual preference is a choice. The fact that masons prefer to make decisions in the absence of women shows a mistrust in 50% of the population. Whether this stems from a strict mother, a dominant sister, or other reason only they would know. Whether this closed society is a benefit to the country is highly unlikely.

[Miss Random]

Sorry kwicky... hijacking your thread.

Hi In a Pickle, been trying to find you for ages, have you changed your email addy? Tried to PM you in Sport, but dont think you got it.... (porfavour) xx

[Ice.Maiden]

Well said IAP. I have a gay male friend who echoes your points there exactly.
Btw kwicky - there are lady Masons as well!

[311271]

the clergy like to dress the choir boys in girls dresses and the masons like the glitter of jewelry
says it all lol

[311271]

you a vicar iap?

lmfao

[beso]

Gay men sometimes turn to the church in the hope of getting God's help to drive out what they assume is wrong with them.

[chacha2chins]

A higher incindence than what?

[chacha2chins]

My gosh Beso, your response reminds of an American TVevanglist who claimed he's "cured" many gays.
I hope that's not what you're saying...all I'm saying is your post reminds me of that.

[D143237G]

Being a Freemason and a Civil Servant, and a very lowly one at that, alI I can add is that I know a lot of people in the Civil Service who are lesbian or gay and hardly any gay Freemasons. Most of the ones I know are married.

I appreciate that many married people are actually gay. Even so Kwicky it is a hell of a sweeping statement you are making with no evidence to back it up.

Also311271 as a choirboy I wore a cassock and surplice and not a dress.

It is unfortunate that we have to suffer this kind of mentality that calls a kilt a skirt (But never to the face of someone wearing one.)

Having said that Kwicky you did start one of the better recent debates on this site

[Pippa68]

I wish I could have chosen my sexual preference.

I would have chosen gay..they seem to have much more fun than us straight types ;o)

I would also question whether there is a higher incidence of gay people in the clergy or masons. Have you done any real research?

[Skreecheeboy]

All the masons I know are gay.

[Pippa68]

I think he ended up with his willy on his forehead, IAP.

[kwicky]

If masons are gay they should be proud of it or maybe their secretive nature only hides the reason for becoming a mason in the first place. What is that you ask? Female-phobia!

[kwicky]

I knew there was a word for it...Gynophobia....treatment is available.

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