Nero Moves To Concerto Mode

[FatticusInch]

Still fiddling as all around him collapses into crises.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-on-leave-as-pm-takes-second-foreign-holiday-of-the-summer-12673664

He certainly knows how to rub everyone’s nose in it, doesn’t he?
What on earth was this ridiculous 5th of September thing about, he’s been about as much use as a wicker canoe anyway so what was it all about, he could and should have gone immediately?
Each day that passes only helps the Tories opponents, surely?
Or is it his way at getting back at those who ‘plotted against him’ by ensuring the electorate are so fed up come the GE it’ll be a landslide?
I daresay he’s got an agenda!

[jno]

I'm just predicting the state of Tory voters, Paigntonian.

///He stabbed Johnson. No one likes that and it rarely does the stabber much good. ///

It didn't do Boris himself any harm when he was doing the stabbing.

[FatticusInch]

youngmafbog
//The two main reasons Sunak is struggling are:

1) His appalling tax haul as Chancellor (that he wants to continue)

2) He stabbed Johnson. No one likes that and it rarely does the stabber much good.

His background is neither here nor there, wealth or otherwise.//

Number 1 yes, he got us into this mess with his fiscal policies yet he can now supposedly fix it all with a masterstroke?

Number 2, nobody stabbed Johnson, he brought about his own downfall through lying, has done his whole life.
No idea why Sunak gets the blame, at least he didn’t give a damning indictment of Johnson by way of a resignation speech in the HoC like Javed did so that perplexes me.

But every single person who is not a member of the Tory Party knows why Sunak would never get the top job, they just can’t say it, despite the party being rife with it.

[douglas9401]

Bozza was on an old Top Gear today, a pre London Olympics one and Clarkson captured him over two versions of the truth re something as simple as gear changes for economy, there was also some self-serving drivel about bendy buses, whatever they are.

Once a lying clown always a lying clown.

[Paigntonian]

Here's the truth.
We don't know when the next general election is going to be.
We don't know who the leader of the Conservative Party will be.
We don't know who the sitting prime minister will be.
We don't know who the leader of the Labour Party will be.
We don't know what the UK economic circumstances will be.
We can't possibly forecast what the situation in regard to Ukraine will be.
We don't know who the next American president will be.
We don't know if Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, India, Israel and so on will be involved in conflicts that affect other countries.
We have no idea what the oil price will be a month from now, never mind in two months' time.
We have absolutely no idea what the weather will be like in three months' time.
All this guff about Labour landslides, or Tory ones, is just silly.

[Gromit]

Paigntonian

I predict Sunak will get slaughtered on September 5th.
I also predict he won’t get a cabinet post, he will not stand in 2024, and he will move to his £5million California home.

[Paigntonian]

Gromit: As predictions go think you're probably spot on.

[FatticusInch]

Johnson too will leave these shores, he’ll not be an MP much longer and will leave politics altogether.

[Gromit]

// We don't know when the next general election is going to be. // - Yes we do, 2024.

// We don't know who the leader of the Conservative Party will be. // - Yes we do, Liz Truss.

// We don't know who the sitting prime minister will be. // - Yes we do, Liz Truss.

[naomi24]

Ahhhh, how sweet. You’re missing him already. :o)

Ultimately, Sunak, the most powerful of ministers, led the charge that sent the dominoes tumbling and for that level of disloyalty he deserves no respect whatsoever. Sunak, like the rest, has seriously misread the mood of a nation that, after the past few turbulent years, wants and needs stability rather than turmoil but all prospect of that these foolish MPs have thrown away.

Furthermore, Sunak
is failing not because he’s brown - an insult by the way -but because as a backstabber so clearly in pursuance of his own ambition he has proven himself untrustworthy. He is not fit for office. It’s that simple.

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
//The bloke's been ousted you can't expect nose to the grind stone......!//

So what’s he hanging around for, taking the wallpaper off piece by piece? The link says Raab will deputise in his absence and if he supposedly can’t or won’t make policy then just what is Johnson clinging on for?
A few more jet rides with the RAF? One last deathslide off Tower bridge with the Royal Marines?
He’s doing it to spite the parliamentary party that got rid of him, nobody else. They’ll come to rue letting him have a swansong.
What a pathetic creature.

[Paigntonian]

Gromit: You take the prize today.
We don't know when the next general election will be because parliament can, again, suspend the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.
We don't know who the sitting prime minister will be because Truss, if she wins, could be replaced before the next general election.
What's hard?

[gulliver1]

16.46 .But what we do know, is that come the G/E the new prime minister will not be a TORY.

[Gromit]

// Johnson too will leave these shores //
I don’t think so.

// and will leave politics altogether. //
I doubt that too.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he got the nomination to fight Sadiq Khan in 2025. He will get his job back at the Daily Telegraph, and will write books, do tv shows.

[Paigntonian]

Gromit: That's good.

[douglas9401]

"-but because as a backstabber so clearly in pursuance of his own ambition he has proven himself untrustworthy."

Well he's learned from the master.

[FatticusInch]

Aw, poor naomi!
You’ve got to marvel at the stupidity of Tory supporters who claim backstabbing of their heroes has taken place yet it is rife within the Tory parliamentary party, all clamouring over themselves to get rid of the liar-bility Johnson but tearing each other asunder and contradicting colleagues daily when interviewed by the media.
You call May a traitor but Johnson backstabbed her and Cameron too, didn’t he? But when Johnson is removed for perpetual lying, he’s backstabbed!
Lol, what a pathetic notion you have if your own party.

[naomi24]

Too late to argue about it, fatticusinch. These fools have thrown the country - and a stonking majority -under a bus. Liz Truss will not recover that.

[david small]

We need a new party with a new path for our country. This lot are all the same as each other. Our political choice is no choice. This appalling shower trip over each other climbing the ladder of self interest.

[FatticusInch]

The biggest fool is the serial liar and adulterer Johnson, who will lose his party’s 80 seat majority through lies, evasion, rule-breaking/bending, taking the public for fools and treating Parliament and it’s processes with disdain.
All his own work as downfalls go, an absolute masterpiece.
What a legacy he’ll leave!

[Paigntonian]

Why do people keep thinking that the Tories and Labour are somehow on level-pegging. They seem to imagine that if Labour are five or ten per cent in the polls they are going to win. But the Tories have a 80-seat majority, over ALL other Parties. So Labour need a swing greater than Blair in '97. And it's even harder for Labour because '97 included strong Labour support in Scotland and that has disappeared.