Starmer/Rayner

[Khandro]

Should he, would he, sack her?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1532086/Angela-Rayner-news-labour-party-keir-starmer-crack-new-team-axe-role-deputy

[andy-hughes]

Should he? Yes, because clearly they are not a united front, and appear not even to particularly like each other.

Would he? No, because he can't. The Deputy is appointed by the Party, and it would need a vote at the party conference to depose her.

At the moment, each of them is clinging on, embarrassing each other, and ensuring that Labour are going to lurch into the next election with exactly the same issues as they did the last one - a clueless leadership, out of date policies, and an ethos that belongs in the history of sixty years ago.

[Khandro]

AH: I think that just about sums it up.

[ToraToraTora]

GOAS/Rodders is very much like Agent Cob/Bullet coffee man. She's un sacked herself once already. If Labour are ever going to sniff power they need to sort this sort of thing out.

[ToraToraTora]

He can't sack her from the deputy leadership but he can exclude her from the shadow cabinet. He should do that she's definitely a liability. TBF though Labour would need a massive change in public attitude if they are ever to win a GE as real Labour.

[THECORBYLOON]

"Bullet coffee man"? What on earth is that meant to mean?

[dave50]

She's a rough bird, common as muck.

[ynnafymmi]

Where are all the new Disraelis or Gladstones,where are all the new Churchills and Attlees,where is the new Thatcher.We have wishy-washy Starmer,we have an idiotic clown in Johnson and up here in Scotland we have a first minister who couldnt organise a *** up in a brewery.Not that she would be allowed to,the idiotic Green Party runs things up here in Scotland now.

[jourdain2]

Yes, ynnafymmi, where are they? I remember studying the debates of Gladstone and Disraeli. Completely opposed, but erudite and convinced.

We don't have conviction politicians any more - we have greasy-pole climbers who will sway and turn to take advantage of the wind.

He can't sack her - he can negate her and force her followers out of the woodwork. Is he willing to do so?