Covid19 Is The 4Th Deadliest Event In Us History! Your Thoughts And What About Your Country?

[Answerdaquestion]

Covid19 is the 4th deadliest event in US history! Your thoughts and what about your country?
(1) American Civil War (1861-1865) 620,000-1,000,000 deaths.

(2) Spanish Flu (1918-1920) 670,000 deaths.

(3) US involvement in WW2 (1941-1945) 408,000 deaths.

(4) Coronavirus (2019-2020) 200,000 deaths so far.

[aelmpvw]

i thought spanish flu killed millions?

[aelmpvw]

sorry, i see you're talking about the usa

[bobbinwales]

Look's bad , it is bad but no as bad as spanish flue but could get close over 2 years. It gives hope tho that virus's like spanish flue and hopefully Corona can pretty much die out after awhile

[tiggerblue10]

Bubonic plague killed between 75-200m people around the world in the 14c. Probably the deadliest event in human history.

[Buenchico]

Your figures seem to ignore the 700,000+ people who've died in the USA since the start of an epidemic in 1981 that's still ongoing in the country:
https://www.kff.org/hivaids/fact-sheet/the-hivaids-epidemic-in-the-united-states-the-basics/

[Atheist]

How many people did European invaders kill when they took over North America?

[JimF]

Because there was no record of the population at the time, it is impossible to give any accurate answer to how much of the indigenous population of the Americas was reduced by the arrival of European "explorers", but a figure of around 90% is generally given and, by far, the vast majority of these deaths was caused by disease brought into the country against which the local population had absolutely no immunity.

[Atheist]

Jim; regardless of numbers, I think the north American population would have thought that the arrival of the Europeans was the deadliest event that happened to them.

[birdie1971]

The problem with the figures given for deaths due to Covid19 [C19] in both the USA and other countries is that numbers are subject to errors. It's a well known fact that deaths are routinely being attributed to C19 when this is not the case. It's one thing dying *with* C19 and quite another dying *of* C19. However, the two scenarios are – as far as I can tell – being lumped in together. This means that the numbers of people being reported as dying *of* C19 are vastly overestimated.

I annoys me no end when I see graphs in the media of estimates of any particular thing that don't show the error bars. What are 'error bars'? They're the uncertainty of the data.

Given the uncertainty of C19 deaths, the error bars could be absolutely enormous. They could be 50%, 75% or as little as 1%. But the fact is, we don't know because they never tell us the level of uncertainty. Currently, the 'official' number of deaths in the UK of C19 is 41,971. But this number could be much smaller.

The lack of an admission of error bars bedevils science. Uncertainty is passed off as truth. Doubt is waved away as an irrelevance. A graph can be a window into truth or a highly effective method of propaganda. Knowing the uncertainly – error bars – gives the data legitimacy. When the error bars are omitted, it's only reasonable to conclude that you're being hoodwinked.

[Atheist]

So, nobody interested in what the local human population of North America felt about this? Nobody got any ideas of how many were killed either by imported disease or massacre by the European incomers?

[Atheist]

Answer.....; are you American? Do you have any info on what I asked?

[birdie1971]

Atheist - “... Nobody got any ideas of how many were killed either by imported disease or massacre by the European incomers?”


I believe that JimF responded according when he stated, “... it is impossible to give any accurate answer to how much of the indigenous population of the Americas was reduced by the arrival of European "explorers", but a figure of around 90% is generally given and, by far, the vast majority of these deaths was caused by disease brought into the country against which the local population had absolutely no immunity.”

If you have actual numbers backed up by verifiable data, please share it.

[Sunk]