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Locking Down Of Care Homes, Is That What The Residents Want?

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dave50 | 09:02 Fri 11th Sep 2020 | News
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There has been talk of this happening again. Has anyone ever asked any of the residents of these care homes if they want to be isolated from their close family and friends? Perhaps some may want to take the risk so they have the chance for a hug from their children and grand children, especially if they know they may not have long left even without the virus. The way some have been forcibly isolated is heart breaking. It's a symptom of the health and safety culture we have now, where length of life always trumps quality of life no matter what the cost.
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So I'll try once again: The virus will spread. It will spread whatever action the government or anybody else takes. When I read about measures being taken for "your safety" or "to keep you safe" I chuckle. No shop, pub, restaurant, organisation or government can keep people "safe" from an infectious disease running at pandemic levels unless they isolate...
12:21 Fri 11th Sep 2020
I admire you for carrying on NJ, sometimes it must feel like you are urinating into the wind (I can't use the proper expression on here)!
Fortunately no-one with responsibility or accountability is taking any notice of the views of those who don't who think "we can't control so just let it happen" and those who think "it's a hoax or conspiracy to make us act like sheep"
//Fortunately no-one with responsibility or accountability is taking any notice of the views of those who don't who think "we can't control so just let it happen"//

An answer to my earlier question might be nice but I'll not hold my breath. Just for clarity (and so that I am not lumped together with the people who think Covid is a hoax) I'm not suggesting we "just let it happen". What I'm suggesting is that the government's strategy which is aimed at trying to prevent spread by keeping everybody apart from everybody else is pointless. It will not work and it has been demonstrated that it will not work. What I am suggesting is that guidance should be provided to everybody but particularly to those at risk (the elderly and those with other health problems) so that they can make an informed choice about the measures they want to take to protect themselves. It is they themselves who must take those measures because neither the government nor anybody else can "keep them safe" from an infectious disease and it splits my sides when I read that they believe they can.

To continually faff about in the way this government has, locking people down, closing businesses and schools, opening them up again alongside the threat of closure is utterly pointless. But more than that, the strategy has seen twenty years of economic growth slaughtered in a month, it has seen countless businesses go under and hundreds of thousands of jobs lost. The social fabric of the country is under immense strain and the health service is all but defunct. And all this is to try to prevent the spread of a disease that, since the beginning of August, has claimed an average of ten lives a day. Covid is a nasty disease for those who end up with severe symptoms. But they are very few and far between. Far nastier and more lethal diseases also abound and they are being ignored, their victims sacrificed on the Covid altar. Very soon there be far less funds to treat them anyway.

The government needs to decide what it is trying to achieve because I don't know and I doubt anybody else does.
By jove NJ. Your common sense and grasp of the situation is like a diamond shining through a cess pit. Respect.
^^ I wholeheartedly second that sentiment.
NJ has said what I have been thinking for a long time. You say it excellently NJ. Respect here too.
And here.
//...neither the government nor anybody else can "keep them safe" from an infectious disease and it splits my sides when I read that they believe they can.//

Here's an example of why my sides need stitching up, taken from another thread:
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From the Welsh Government site [responding to a question about the local lockdown in Caerphilly]:

"I’ve booked a holiday abroad in the coming weeks – can I still go?"

No. We know this will be disappointing but travelling out of Caerphilly County Borough Council area for a holiday is not one of the permitted reasons under the regulations. The regulations are in place to protect you and your loved ones from coronavirus...
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Can anyone please tell me (in simple terms bearing in mind I'm as thick as two short planks) how preventing somebody leaving Caerphilly, to holiday in a place where the infection rate is quite probably lower than in their home town, will "protect them and their loved ones from coronavirus"?
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As usual from NJ, the voice of reason.

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