Two Cathedrals - Musings From A Sleep Deprived Brain

[Barmaid]

This is one of my 3am questions. 3am questions tend to occur after having been woken up by ASBO the cat jumping on me and just as I drift back off to sleep, my brain decides that it is imperative that I find the answer to a particular question.

Well the one from 2 nights ago was "Is there anywhere you can stand in the UK where you can see 2 (or more) cathedrals from one place?" I was musing that perhaps if you stood on the top of Ely you might see Norwich and Peterborough. Gloucester, Worcester and Hereford?

Anyone have any ideas? And is there somewhere on the www that can quickly calculate distances as the crow flies? I tried a couple last night and they werent very user friendly.

[bhg481]

Liverpool has two so you should be able to see both at the same time.

[tamborine]

Google earth has measuring device

[Barmaid]

Yeah bhg, I meant to say "in 2 different cities". Because Norwich has two as well (I think).

[aelmpvw]

don't several cities have more than one cathedral?

[aelmpvw]

crossed posts :-)

[Eve]

Manchester and Salford cathedrals aren't too far apart so with a bit of height I imagine it's possible to see both. There are some high rises near there and one, if it still does, has a sign on the top saying that on a clear day they can see Wales so I can imagine both cathedrals is possible.

Only thing is with a lot of new buildings springing up and the increasing height of them. There are other places at height though, for example, some of the tram stops are higher up, Salford Central railway station (not far from both but it's been revamped so not sure if you could actually see).

There is the Beetham Tower which has 47 storeys and a bar, Cloud 23, on the 23rd floor, with floor to ceiling windows, so quite likely you could see them both from there.

A newer place, 20 Storeys in Spinningfields, has great floor to ceiling views over the city and a gorgeous terrace where you can see a lot. Possibly The Ivy in Spinningfields though I haven't been in there.

Quite a few very tall office buildings around there with great views of the city if you can find someone you know with a firm in one, lots of law firms around there. I worked on the 10th floor of one at one point and had a great view!

[Eve]

I've been having a look, quite a few hotels likely have a good view from higher up. Maybe even places like on top of the Arndale car park if other buildings don't get in the way.

I would go and have a look somewhere for you if things were more normal but I'm shielding so stuck in the house.

[wolf63]

I know nothing about Cathedrals but I am curious to know how you react your furry-alarm going off.

I usually have to get up and feed Frankie just to stop him howling and howling. He has no qualms about stomping all over me, biting me, scratching and licking sometimes. I got a claw up my nostril a week or so ago.

Like ASBO Frankie is no kitten - he will be 15 on the 29th of this month (if he lives that long, he is howling and howling for food just now) but I am sure that he thinks of himself as a Tiger.

[jno]

you could practically throw a stone from Southwark Cathedral and hit St Paul's.

[Peter Pedant]

well here is the list of roman catholic cathedrals (!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_dioceses_in_Great_Britain

quite a few I would have thought you cd see the roman one and the anglican - has anyone mentioned westminster cathedral ?

Pius IX re established the english dioceses 1850 and there was an outbreak of ecclesiastical panic - banning any legal force to any roman order or bishop -
(The Ecclestiastical Titles Act of 1851, which marked the last time the British government passed a legislation discriminating against a specific religion, resulted from an odd comedy of errors in which the parties concerned repeatedly acted in ways contrary to their own basic beliefs)
but three share the same name I was surprised to see as care was taken that the roman dioceses did NOT overlay the anglican

oh Liverpool of course - the red brick prot one is easily seem from Paddys Wigwam - the roman one

[Peter Pedant]

o god google reveals - - some of the speeches made n the Lords 1851 against - - Papal aggression

https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1851/mar/03/papal-aggression-the-ecclesiastical

[Jonathan-Joe]

// but three share the same name I was surprised to see as care was taken that the roman dioceses did NOT overlay the anglican //
I believe that the Catholic Church was forbidden to use a name for a diocese that was already used by the Anglican but the reverse did not apply. For the three shared names, the Anglican diocese was formed later than the Catholic and could take any name.