Where Will It End.....

[Spicerack]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gallery-covers-up-art-after-complaints-by-muslim-viewers-wvc87fzlr

Or maybe you agree with it.
Sorry it's behind a paywall but I'm sure you get the gist. I have the article in front of me if you want more info.

[vetuste_ennemi]

The willingness to compromise as in meeting someone halfway is a good way fo resolving conflict when negotiating differences with people of good will, Birdie.

Unfortunately Christians remember the injunctions to "turn the other cheek" and "if he forces you to go one mile then go with him for two". Few Muslims would understand(far less respect) the moral principles underlying these ironic and counter-intuitive teachings of the Gospels.

So, as you point out, concession is uni-directional and will end, failing an unlikely recovery of cultural self-assurance and moral, in capitulation to an imported and aggressive barbarism.

[birdie1971]

VE

Agreed.

“Appeasement only makes the aggressor more aggressive.” - Dean Rusk

[Mamyalynne]

I suppose we could debate from now until the end of time, but the Artist himself made the decision.

//However, in response to the complaints, SKU suggested as a compromise the works should remain on the gallery wall but be covered up with sheets.

“It seemed a respectful solution that enables a debate about freedom of expression versus the perceived right not to be offended,” he said in a statement to the Sunday Times.//

[vetuste_ennemi]

The ratchet effect you describe is the Islamic legal concept of "waqf", Birdie: permanent endowment of property to Allah. Once property has been willed to Allah, or territory has been seized from the House of War and become incorporated in the House of Islam, those endowments last forever. One reason why there can never be a peaceful resolution to the State of Israel issue. forever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waqf

[vetuste_ennemi]

//“Appeasement only makes the aggressor more aggressive.” - Dean Rusk//

I prefer Shakespeare, Birdie:

"As if increase of appetite has grown by what it fed on".

Or Rabelais:

"L'appétit vient en mangeant".

[vetuste_ennemi]

...and more in the popular domain there's the crocodile's last meal anecdote, isn't there?

[birdie1971]

Mamyalynne -

I don't care that the artist said that some people have, “... [a] right not to be offended...”. The artist is clearly a half-wit on this issue.

[birdie1971]

[birdie1971]

VE

Thanks for the link. I was looking for it and couldn't remember the name. Cheers.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//“It seemed a respectful solution that enables a debate about freedom of expression versus the perceived right not to be offended”//

Here's a simple question: what do you call "respect" if it's demanded of you, but not returned?

As in "Don't diss me, whitey!"

[birdie1971]

VE

I know this is wildly off-topic now but you mentioned the Israel issue. Have you seen this:

[vetuste_ennemi]

No, I haven't, Birdie.

But back to watch evaporation emp[ty what's left of the Bacardi bottle.

A very good night to you, and to you, Mamya.

[Spicerack]

You've totally misconstrued, probably on purpose, what the artist is saying, mamya.
He's covered his pictures, not because he thinks they are offensive but as a protest against ' the perceived right not to be offended,' of Muslims.
Anyway, when the 'moderate' Muslims at Quilliam make thinly veiled threats against you, 'They are really dangerous, it's the Satanic Verses all over again' you'd best do something if you value your life.

[Peter Pedant]

well....
elton john had his henry scott tukes seized
buut all I can find is this
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/elton-john-defends-photograph-seized-in-child-porn-art-raid-6657465.html

Tuke as a Cornish arteest who used to paint boys swimming and fishing - without an awful lot on

[Peter Pedant]

// As in "Don't diss me, whitey!" //
judges OK dont say this
but parade around in drag saying exactly this.....

and waqf....
is the islamic equivalent of a english law Trust
but is not nearly so elastic

[Peter Pedant]

you cant use a qqwaqf to set up anything like a pension, or in wills
which are second nature in trusts

[Spicerack]

What's your point, pp? Nobody has suggested these pictures are pornographic, just blasphemous.

[Mamyalynne]

I didn't say how I interpreted the artist'd comment and decision.

Either way it's a win win for him.

[Spicerack]

Of course you didn't, You just said he made the decision himself without bothering about context.
A win/win for the artist? Possibly. As long as the RoP never find out his real name or address.