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BBC News - the D of Edinburger in a car crash near Sandringham
,his R-Rover overturned, uninjured but what the hell is a 98 year old man doing driving.....I don't care if he is in the royal family
,his R-Rover overturned, uninjured but what the hell is a 98 year old man doing driving.....I don't care if he is in the royal family
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> In November 2018, there were 5.3 million over-70s with full driving licences in Britain, according to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency.
> There were 11,245 people involved in road traffic accidents where the driver was in that age group - a rate of two per 1,000 licence holders.
> For Britain's 2.8 million drivers aged 17 to 24, the rate was more than four times as high, at nine per 1,000.
They are swerving to avoid the 5.3 million dodderers.
> There were 11,245 people involved in road traffic accidents where the driver was in that age group - a rate of two per 1,000 licence holders.
> For Britain's 2.8 million drivers aged 17 to 24, the rate was more than four times as high, at nine per 1,000.
They are swerving to avoid the 5.3 million dodderers.
"Like it or not the Royal Family is not treated in the same manner, in matters such as this, as you or I would."
I do genuinely think in matters such as this there is one rule for us plebs and another rule for others.
A few years ago Mrs DeskDiary was caught doing 98mph on the M4 in Wilts. Mrs DD doesn't work as we took the decision we wanted a parent to raise our kids rather than farming them off to strangers, and as such, as it was her crime I assumed her fine would be set at the minimum level. But no, even though I wasn't driving (I wasn't even in the car...or county for that matter) the court took my earnings into account and Mrs DD was fined £600. Or to put it another way, I was punished for Mrs DD's crime.
Not long after this (and I really wish I could remember the guy's name) it was reported in the press that the multi-millionaire [insert famous name] was caught doing a similar speed and was fined about £250.
I am a very very long way off of being a millionaire, so I was left scratching my head as to why I had to pay £600 for my wife's crime and yet he paid a shed-load less.
I do genuinely think in matters such as this there is one rule for us plebs and another rule for others.
A few years ago Mrs DeskDiary was caught doing 98mph on the M4 in Wilts. Mrs DD doesn't work as we took the decision we wanted a parent to raise our kids rather than farming them off to strangers, and as such, as it was her crime I assumed her fine would be set at the minimum level. But no, even though I wasn't driving (I wasn't even in the car...or county for that matter) the court took my earnings into account and Mrs DD was fined £600. Or to put it another way, I was punished for Mrs DD's crime.
Not long after this (and I really wish I could remember the guy's name) it was reported in the press that the multi-millionaire [insert famous name] was caught doing a similar speed and was fined about £250.
I am a very very long way off of being a millionaire, so I was left scratching my head as to why I had to pay £600 for my wife's crime and yet he paid a shed-load less.
I can't explain why the other party was fined £250, DD, but I can explain why your wife's fine was calculated with your earnings taken into consideration. This comes from the Magistrates' Court Sentencing Guidelines under "Assessment of Financial Circumstances":
"Where the household of which the offender is a part has more than one source of income, the fine should normally be based on the income of the offender alone.
However, where the offender’s part of the income is very small (or the offender is wholly dependent on the income of another), the court may have regard to the extent of the household’s income and assets which will be available to meet any fine imposed on the offender (R v Engen [2004] EWCA Crim 1536 (CA))."
It is clear that in a household where one party does not work (as in your circumstances) advantage is gained from the income of the other. To say a person has no income whilst enjoying the use of a house, food, and other facilities would be absurd. Just for further information where a defendant genuinely has no income at all fines and other costs are calculated on the basis of an income of £120pw. If no information about a defender's income is provided to the court an sum of £440pw is assumed.
"Where the household of which the offender is a part has more than one source of income, the fine should normally be based on the income of the offender alone.
However, where the offender’s part of the income is very small (or the offender is wholly dependent on the income of another), the court may have regard to the extent of the household’s income and assets which will be available to meet any fine imposed on the offender (R v Engen [2004] EWCA Crim 1536 (CA))."
It is clear that in a household where one party does not work (as in your circumstances) advantage is gained from the income of the other. To say a person has no income whilst enjoying the use of a house, food, and other facilities would be absurd. Just for further information where a defendant genuinely has no income at all fines and other costs are calculated on the basis of an income of £120pw. If no information about a defender's income is provided to the court an sum of £440pw is assumed.
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this is interesting. He's been driving badly for quite a while
"locals reminisced about crashes and near misses they had encountered over the decades with Prince Philip, who is a keen driver.
Norfolk businessman Patrick Daynes ended up up in neck brace and with whiplash injuries in January 1996 after the Prince steered his Land Rover into the back of his Mercedes 190 as he let an elderly lady across a zebra crossing.
Mr Daynes said: “The Prince’s Range Rover came into the back of my Mercedes while I was waiting at a pedestrian crossing. It was entirely his fault."
Others have spoken of alleged near-misses with the Duke, who locals often see driving around the area.
Sue Brown claimed on social media: “Many years ago, my uncle had a similar incident around the same area.
“Prince Philip pulled out in front of him but my uncle was able to stop in time. It was not until both drivers got out of their cars that my uncle realised he was shouting at the Prince, telling him to be more careful.”
Charlotte Tuffnell, a teaching assistant from nearby Fakenham, said: “He nearly ran my dad off the road at Sandringham a few years back. He needs to pack it in!”
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"locals reminisced about crashes and near misses they had encountered over the decades with Prince Philip, who is a keen driver.
Norfolk businessman Patrick Daynes ended up up in neck brace and with whiplash injuries in January 1996 after the Prince steered his Land Rover into the back of his Mercedes 190 as he let an elderly lady across a zebra crossing.
Mr Daynes said: “The Prince’s Range Rover came into the back of my Mercedes while I was waiting at a pedestrian crossing. It was entirely his fault."
Others have spoken of alleged near-misses with the Duke, who locals often see driving around the area.
Sue Brown claimed on social media: “Many years ago, my uncle had a similar incident around the same area.
“Prince Philip pulled out in front of him but my uncle was able to stop in time. It was not until both drivers got out of their cars that my uncle realised he was shouting at the Prince, telling him to be more careful.”
Charlotte Tuffnell, a teaching assistant from nearby Fakenham, said: “He nearly ran my dad off the road at Sandringham a few years back. He needs to pack it in!”
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He hasn't even inquired how she (the other driver) and her baby are - I can see that he wouldn't want to apologise as this would be an admittance of guilt, - but really!
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Most critics are suggesting the problem is his age, but maybe he is simply insane; as his mother was in her dotage when she became a nun.
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Most critics are suggesting the problem is his age, but maybe he is simply insane; as his mother was in her dotage when she became a nun.
Now I read he's out and driving without a seat-belt. My theory above, stands! He gets "advice" from the police and we would get a fine.
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