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Why Can't Those That Own Their Houses Pass Them On To Their Children If They Are Unfortunate To Go Into Care, During Their Final Years?
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It has taken these two hero's predicament to highlight once again the unfairness between those that have struggled to buy their homes and those who chose not to.
It has taken these two hero's predicament to highlight once again the unfairness between those that have struggled to buy their homes and those who chose not to.
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It's nothing to do with adult children not inheriting what they'd like; that's a 'red herring'; it's about the person needing health care, physical or mental, being asked to pay, and not being able to leave what is theirs to whomever they wish. One can try to split off some health care and rename it social care if one wishes, but it fools no one. It's still clearly...
13:44 Sat 10th Nov 2018
pop up Peter!
( a call for gormless comment by the usual suspects)
well here I am - - but I dont seem to need to say anything stupid - you all seem to be doing OK yourselves ! ter daah !
Free at the point of delivery ( 1945) and paid for by taxes ( so Harold Wilson resigned over prescription charges in 194x - ) oh so what for chrissakes - that was then and this is now. Since we are remembering ( pun intended ) what about the cost of the NHS will be big in the first year and then fall?
They are all cured see and so wont need care later
We dont hear anything of that model - which was disproved in the first year.....
Most of the comments here seem based on the Politics of Envy
that is Taxes are all very well - except when I have to pay them!
( a call for gormless comment by the usual suspects)
well here I am - - but I dont seem to need to say anything stupid - you all seem to be doing OK yourselves ! ter daah !
Free at the point of delivery ( 1945) and paid for by taxes ( so Harold Wilson resigned over prescription charges in 194x - ) oh so what for chrissakes - that was then and this is now. Since we are remembering ( pun intended ) what about the cost of the NHS will be big in the first year and then fall?
They are all cured see and so wont need care later
We dont hear anything of that model - which was disproved in the first year.....
Most of the comments here seem based on the Politics of Envy
that is Taxes are all very well - except when I have to pay them!
// Well the alternative is the family provide the 24/7 care. Which is exhausting and heart breaking. But there are those who do.// BM
well in 1972 when my brudda was a houseman at Barts he said to a fambly
well mrs C your mother is really ready to go home now
and the fambly said - - oh no we cant doctor -we've sold the house!
oh THOSE were the days of care from cradle to the grave ....
well in 1972 when my brudda was a houseman at Barts he said to a fambly
well mrs C your mother is really ready to go home now
and the fambly said - - oh no we cant doctor -we've sold the house!
oh THOSE were the days of care from cradle to the grave ....
People have an overblown view of what their tax money can run to.
The vast majority of people don’t pay enough tax or in the case of ‘NHS and care’ NI to actually pay for the services they get for it. Those that do pay minimal tax and NI often get a bit back through wtc and cb etc so whatever you’ve put in won’t cover much else when all the other things are taken into consideration.
Cradle to grave was always going to be unsustainable and especially so now when technology and age have all increased. Everyone expects to be able walk into a GP surgery and get treated with instant referral and (hopefully) quickly treated. Everyone expects to be able to walk into A&E and get emergency treatment leading to either further care or cure.
Everyone expects.
Not very many pay enough to get everything they expect but they expect it all the same.
I do think the whole of the NHS and care systems need an overhaul as well as people’s attitudes to health.
The vast majority of people don’t pay enough tax or in the case of ‘NHS and care’ NI to actually pay for the services they get for it. Those that do pay minimal tax and NI often get a bit back through wtc and cb etc so whatever you’ve put in won’t cover much else when all the other things are taken into consideration.
Cradle to grave was always going to be unsustainable and especially so now when technology and age have all increased. Everyone expects to be able walk into a GP surgery and get treated with instant referral and (hopefully) quickly treated. Everyone expects to be able to walk into A&E and get emergency treatment leading to either further care or cure.
Everyone expects.
Not very many pay enough to get everything they expect but they expect it all the same.
I do think the whole of the NHS and care systems need an overhaul as well as people’s attitudes to health.
"Health expenditure (medical services, health research, central and other health services) per capita in England has risen from £1,879 in 2011/12 to £2,106 in 2015/16."
Spending per person has increased, regardless of the number of immigrants. Or are you saying the immigrants need more money spending on them than everyone else?
Spending per person has increased, regardless of the number of immigrants. Or are you saying the immigrants need more money spending on them than everyone else?
Why do children think they're entitled? They haven't earned it.
Both my grandparents were in care homes, paid for privately. As soon as my grandad realised he was going home he sold his house and banked the money.
He was a very wealthy man but none of his kids expected a penny off him.
Work for your own stuff!!
Both my grandparents were in care homes, paid for privately. As soon as my grandad realised he was going home he sold his house and banked the money.
He was a very wealthy man but none of his kids expected a penny off him.
Work for your own stuff!!
£2,106 wont buy you much treatment. It is costing almost £2,000 just to get one hand of carpel tunnel sorted out. That doesn’t include the previous visits to the GP, tests and referrals etc.
I’m on just above the national minimum wage and if I worked full time (I work part time at the moment) I would be paying around but less than £500 a year in NI contributions and under £1000 in tax. But there are plenty of people that contribute nothing but are still entitled to everything that everyone else is.
Although some people may never or rarely even visit their GP there are plenty that have enough treatment for ten people.
To a degree I do think the influx of migrants hasn’t helped the situation with the NHS. But I am more annouyed at health tourists even If in the grand scheme of things it appears to be a small part. It is a symptom of an attitude of a malaise within the establishment. I firmly believe, as I have said many times before, we expect too much and we give too much.
I’m on just above the national minimum wage and if I worked full time (I work part time at the moment) I would be paying around but less than £500 a year in NI contributions and under £1000 in tax. But there are plenty of people that contribute nothing but are still entitled to everything that everyone else is.
Although some people may never or rarely even visit their GP there are plenty that have enough treatment for ten people.
To a degree I do think the influx of migrants hasn’t helped the situation with the NHS. But I am more annouyed at health tourists even If in the grand scheme of things it appears to be a small part. It is a symptom of an attitude of a malaise within the establishment. I firmly believe, as I have said many times before, we expect too much and we give too much.
The main reasons the NHS is struggling and care homes in crisis is because people are living longer and suffering from lifestyle related disease. People should be responsible for their own care in later life. Children should be encouraged to make their own money, not top up their net worth as relatives die off.
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