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Failed Terror Attack, Leicester
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Ever heard of Lugman Aslam? No, I hadn’t either until this morning. Compared to the Finsbury Park attack, there has been very little reporting on this attack by the national media.
On June 28th last year, he mounted the pavement at speed and brutally plowed his van into five people on Lee Street, Leicester. By a stroke of incredible fortune, nobody was killed or seriously injured in the attack.
Despite the attack being proved as an attempt to inflict grievously bodily harm, he was not charged with attempted murder. He did admit dangerous driving and attempting to inflict grievous bodily harm, and was jailed for five years and banned from driving for four-and-a-half.
The deliberate (that is the point) use of a van as a weapon to cause harm or death appears to have attracted a lesser sentence than if he had carried a knife, gun or similar. He appealed the sentence, and had it mitigated to four years. Is this British justice?
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On June 28th last year, he mounted the pavement at speed and brutally plowed his van into five people on Lee Street, Leicester. By a stroke of incredible fortune, nobody was killed or seriously injured in the attack.
Despite the attack being proved as an attempt to inflict grievously bodily harm, he was not charged with attempted murder. He did admit dangerous driving and attempting to inflict grievous bodily harm, and was jailed for five years and banned from driving for four-and-a-half.
The deliberate (that is the point) use of a van as a weapon to cause harm or death appears to have attracted a lesser sentence than if he had carried a knife, gun or similar. He appealed the sentence, and had it mitigated to four years. Is this British justice?
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// Failed Terror Attack, Leicester //
It wasn’t a terror attack, it was a revenge attack after an earlier altercation. The motive was not ideology inspired, the men had rowed anf fought earlier.
There is video of the incident on this report.
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Looking at the video, he was very lucky that no one was killed. In fact everyone escaped with only minor injuries.
The 5 year sentence was correct, the appeal should not have lessened the sentence.
That incident doesn’t really compare to the Finsbury Mosque attack which was indiscriminate, premeditated and ideology inspired and with the intent to kill.
It wasn’t a terror attack, it was a revenge attack after an earlier altercation. The motive was not ideology inspired, the men had rowed anf fought earlier.
There is video of the incident on this report.
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Looking at the video, he was very lucky that no one was killed. In fact everyone escaped with only minor injuries.
The 5 year sentence was correct, the appeal should not have lessened the sentence.
That incident doesn’t really compare to the Finsbury Mosque attack which was indiscriminate, premeditated and ideology inspired and with the intent to kill.
yup for policy considerations - causing death by dangerous driving is considered less than sticking a knife between someone's ribs.
Not prosecuted as a terror attack - were they all white ? / christian ?
No one injured seriously - incredibly. But you might think the London Bridge terroristen were unlucky ( they ended up dead, and only had knives )
sentence appealed and the judge agreed mitigation please had not been taken into account
different facts different sentence
but we always really knew that didnt we ?
title of thread is wrong - I dont see terror anywhere in the article.
Not prosecuted as a terror attack - were they all white ? / christian ?
No one injured seriously - incredibly. But you might think the London Bridge terroristen were unlucky ( they ended up dead, and only had knives )
sentence appealed and the judge agreed mitigation please had not been taken into account
different facts different sentence
but we always really knew that didnt we ?
title of thread is wrong - I dont see terror anywhere in the article.
Very thoughtful responses. I am at a loss, however, to understand why this man is not being charged with attempted murder at the very least. He is certainly causing terror in the video footage. And although I made no mention of the drivers' faith, the court heard it may have played a part as he had not eaten for 20 days as part of the ramadan observance. If one of my relatives had been injured or killed by this mans' intentional attack, I would bevery unhappy to see him walk free after 4 years.
// He is certainly causing terror in the video footage.//
yup we are down to - it is terror since I say it is....
but in court - there is a definition of terror in the latest Terrorism act - which i wont bother to dig out since no one reads it when i do
whenver I read - "foo dat! fro da key away den!"
I think thank god juries dont sentence
I fully understand the reason that judges do
appeal judge agreed wiv da defence that the rules on mititgation and sentence had not been followed
and I think you can see tha arguing that - "if the facts had been different and he had killed someone den ..." is not a good way of arguing on length of sentence whcih after all depends on the facts
yup we are down to - it is terror since I say it is....
but in court - there is a definition of terror in the latest Terrorism act - which i wont bother to dig out since no one reads it when i do
whenver I read - "foo dat! fro da key away den!"
I think thank god juries dont sentence
I fully understand the reason that judges do
appeal judge agreed wiv da defence that the rules on mititgation and sentence had not been followed
and I think you can see tha arguing that - "if the facts had been different and he had killed someone den ..." is not a good way of arguing on length of sentence whcih after all depends on the facts
I see no apology for fake nooze....
can I do my Trump impression - Hazn- as trump
"I tell you what ! ( oints finger) I see dat video and I see terror written all over their faces and the liddle children and I say - puddem away and throw away da key ! - build a big warl, puddem inside, brick up the entrance and make 'murica great again! end arve !"
mike still on - as an aside - "jeez I need passsu more dan ever!"
can I do my Trump impression - Hazn- as trump
"I tell you what ! ( oints finger) I see dat video and I see terror written all over their faces and the liddle children and I say - puddem away and throw away da key ! - build a big warl, puddem inside, brick up the entrance and make 'murica great again! end arve !"
mike still on - as an aside - "jeez I need passsu more dan ever!"
This attack is clearly different to the Finsbury Park attack. But there are similarities too. Driving a van onto a pavement at speed with an attempt to kill or injure. Yet I am informed by the experts on this site that this was not "terror" even though people were bounced over his in his murderous attempt. The letter of the law was no doubt followed, and the guy walks out a year early. My original question was "Is this British justice"?
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