Prophecy In The News

[Theland]

Watching television news is just amazing to see bible prophecies rolling out so accurately. Proof indeed that the bible is true and that God has forewarned us about the fate of this world.
Get to know God now whilst you can?

[Patsy33]

Nailit, I see what you mean! What 'appened!??

[nailit]

Its religion Patsy, it gets you like that in the end. You're right and everyone else is wrong, kinda like a persecution complex and it makes you bitter and twisted. (and illogical)

[nailit]

And paranoid as well. People disagree with you and you think they are all the devils spawn out to get you. Saw plenty of people like this during my recent stay in the psych hospital.

[Mamyalynne]

It makes some bitter.

[Theland]

Nailit, yes I get it. You were always a wiz kid in your previous life.

[Theland]

IT is obvious that to some I come across as bigoted and arrogant talking down to others who don't share my faith. Nothing could be further from the truth. However I sincerely apologise to any who have been unintentionally offended by my inadvertent poor choice of words to make my points.

[mibn2cweus]

I have a deep abiding respect for those whose genuine approach to seeking truth will never allow them to accept an imposter for the sake of believing what they might hope or prefer it to be.

[Theland]

Mobs use your logic to eliminate all the possibilities and realise mine is not a blind faith.

[mibn2cweus]

Logic tells me there is no other kind. But then faith is truth's ultimate imposter.

[Theland]

Faith based on facts and common sense? Something created needs a creator. The universe had a beginning, so what caused it? Start from there.

[naomi24]

Theland, //The universe had a beginning, so what caused it? Start from there. //

Okay, I'll start from there.

I don't know - and neither does anyone else.

[vulcan42]

Theland, why not start at the stage before your creator created the universe?

[pixie374]

Who created the creator?

[Muntin]

Right at the beginning of this thread Theland asserts that 'bible prophecies rolling out so accurately. Proof indeed that the bible is true and that God has forewarned us about the fate of this world.'

Would he please give just one example of such a prophecy?
Would he explain that passage in from memory Judges where God could overcome wooden chariots but not chariots made of iron. [Alluded to by Naomi].
And would he explain how an all powerful god does not intervene to avert 'the fate of this world' assuming he is also an all loving god.
That's three questions, reasonable ones I hope. Three answers please.

[nailit]

Quiet right Muntin, its from Judges

“And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.”
—Judges 1:19

As regards prophecies in the news Theland will no doubt refer to Matthew 24 where Jesus talks about wars, earthquakes and famines in the last days (as if the earth has never suffered from wars earthquakes and famines previously...)

[Muntin]

Thanks Nailit for the quote. Our son had the verses written on a tee shirt and I thought 'no, that can't be in the bible, they would have edited it out years ago, it shows god is not infallible'.
And, lo, I consulted the bible and that bit is in there, begining of Judges, OT, if any one wants to look it up.

[nailit]

Muntin, I'm an ex Christian (over 30 years) and I still know this carp inside out lol. I also know what fallacious arguments that the like of Theland will respond with because ive been there ;-)

[Theland]

I don't know the answer but will find out.

[Theland]

Yes there are difficult passages in the bible but there is always an explanation. God was with Judah but it was not God doing the fighting for them. Poor military planning or poor equipment who knows? But there are plenty of web sites dealing with such difficult passages rather than simply throwing them out to discredit God. I found the answer so can you.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//But there are plenty of web sites dealing with such difficult passages//

Do I take it, then, that the "difficult" passages need modern websites to explain Jehovah's earlier ambiguities?

Ought He not to have thought through the first draft before releasing it?