Oxford College Bans The Christian Union From Its Freshers’ Fair Over Fears It Would Be “Alienating” For Students Of Other Religions.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/864492/Balliol-College-Oxford-University-Christian-Union-banned-freshers-fair-homophobic

Why wasn't it deemed unlawful under the Religious discrimination act?

Well it would have been if they had banned Islam.

[douglas9401]

Oy veh, mamma mia, zut alors, jeez mate, and on and on.

Go and have a wee cup of tea.

[sp1814]

Togo

//“in light of both concerns raised by members [of the Welfare sub committee] and by an undergraduate survey conducted last term, which indicated a lack of familiarity as to where non-Christian societies, events and services were located”//

But that mean other faiths, or other non-Christian societies? Non-Christian could mean the boating society, political groups etc.

The reason I'm suspicious is because the first thing I would expect from the report is something like."And whilst the Christian Union has been banned, other faiths are readily welcomed".

Because this hasn't been clarified.

[Mamyalynne]

Jno, I doubt it, just going for the ton.

You alright Douglas?

[sp1814]

(Correction):

But does that mean other faiths

[douglas9401]

Mais oui, just putting out signs in other languages as well as English for Mr G.

[Togo]

Must admit sp that I didn't know that you had to be "non Christian" to be a member of a boating society. Strange lot these rowers.

[sp1814]

Togo

Surely if other faiths were represented, the Express would report it?

It would be central to the case for accepting the Christian Union.

There's something fishy here.

[jno]

the "multifaith" stand seems to have involved only four different sorts of Christians, which is not how I'd define multifaith. The original plan was that nobody would be allowed to staff it, but I don't know if that's how it turned out.

http://cherwell.org/2017/10/08/christian-union-banned-from-balliol-freshers-fair/

[Togo]

//So all other "faiths" are conducting themselves in a covert manner? Who would have thought. :))//
I can only, once again, refer you back too 12.21 sp. :))

[Peter Pedant]

I dont want to be poncey in all this high minded outrage
but....
Oxford is a protestant university
and Balliol has a chapel
https://www.balliol.ox.ac.uk/balliol-chapel

NB the proddies have a chapel inside the college
and the other religions - RCs, anarchists and assorted have outposts outside....

[Peter Pedant]

Christian Union ( God Squad) are more fundamentalist
go around waving Bibles or New Testament
and doing the hallelujah baby bit

[Togo]

//I dont want to be poncey in all this high minded outrage
but.... //
I can't resist it?
//NB the proddies have a chapel inside the college //
I'm not?

Explains all?

Hallelujah Baby.

[sp1814]

Togo

"non-Christian societies, events and services"

Still doesn't explain matters.

I want to see evidence that other faiths are accommodated.

I don't see that in the various (non-Express) reports.

The story still smells bad.

[Togo]

If you want "bad smelling stories" sp allow me. Read and digest if you have the stomach for it.
//Apparently, 112 events featuring extremist speakers took place on UK campuses in the academic year 2016/2017, according to a recent report by Britain's Henry Jackson society: "The vast majority of the extreme speakers recorded in this report are Islamist extremists, though one speaker has a background in Far-Right politics...." That one speaker was Tommy Robinson both of whose events were cancelled, one due to hundreds of students planning to demonstrate to protest his appearance. The report does not mention student protests at any of the Islamist events.
The topics of the Islamist speakers included:

"Dawah Training... to teach students the fundamentals of preaching to others... Western foreign policy towards the Islamic world in general... Grievances...perceived attacks on Muslims and Islam in the UK... [calling for] scrapping of Prevent and other government counter-extremism measures [critiquing] arrest and detention of terrorism suspects... [challenging] ideas such as atheism and skepticism... religious socio-economic governance, focusing on the role of religion in fields such as legislation, justice... finance... religious rulings or interpretations, religious verses or other texts, important historical or scriptural figures..."
London was the region with the highest number of events, followed by the South East, according to the report. The most prolific speakers were affiliated to the Muslim Debate Initiative, the Islamic Education and Research Academy (iERA), the Muslim Research and Development Foundation (MRDF), the Hittin Institute, Sabeel, and CAGE. Most speakers were invited by Islamic student societies, and a high proportion of the talks took place during campus events such as "Discover Islam Week", "Islam Awareness Week" and "Islamophobia Awareness Month".

One of the most prolific speakers, Hamza Tzortis, is a senior member of iERA. He has said that apostates who "fight against the community[...] should be killed" and that, "we as Muslims reject the idea of freedom of speech, and even the idea of freedom".
Evidence shows that the danger of becoming an actual Islamic terrorist while studying at British university campuses is also extremely real. According to one report, also by the Henry Jackson society:
"Since 1999, there have been a number of acts of Islamism-inspired terrorism... committed by students studying at a UK university at the time of their offence...there have also been a significant number of graduates from UK universities convicted of involvement in terrorism, and whom... were at least partially radicalised during their studies".//

Nice.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11130/uk-free-speech