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As A Happy Brexiter
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I predict that the UK will, against public opinion, give the EU about s much money as they are asking for. Which is about €100billion.
They will do it by stealth.
20 billion for access to the single market 10billion for pensions (that I don't think we should contribute to) and another 5 billion here and there to stay in security, and other couple billion for the nuclear group, and so on and so forth.
It will be published as a great coup for the UK at only 20 billion but add on all the other bits and we will give them exactly what they want and probably more.
The EU will tell all and sundry that we paid what they said we should and that the smaller countries or those less economically able won't be able to afford to leave even if it isn't in their best interests.
Mind you once that is paid they will still have to fund their own wastefulness after that...
They will do it by stealth.
20 billion for access to the single market 10billion for pensions (that I don't think we should contribute to) and another 5 billion here and there to stay in security, and other couple billion for the nuclear group, and so on and so forth.
It will be published as a great coup for the UK at only 20 billion but add on all the other bits and we will give them exactly what they want and probably more.
The EU will tell all and sundry that we paid what they said we should and that the smaller countries or those less economically able won't be able to afford to leave even if it isn't in their best interests.
Mind you once that is paid they will still have to fund their own wastefulness after that...
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I agree with you alba.
They are just bully's and the UK has, it appears, been intimidated by the EUs constant jibes and bullying.
If we had someone with the balls to just say no. As a gesture of good will and to help future relations we will give you €10 billion to cover our responsibilitys now. Then look at the future relationships we have regards any number of departments (security, nuclear).
We know how much these things cost so wringing extra out of us won't work.
But the doom Sayers and screamers of project fear will have everyone believe we will sink at the merest hint of not getting EXACTLY what we have now while not realising what we get now isn't actually necessarily the best deal anyway.
Just bloody well get on with it regardless.
They are just bully's and the UK has, it appears, been intimidated by the EUs constant jibes and bullying.
If we had someone with the balls to just say no. As a gesture of good will and to help future relations we will give you €10 billion to cover our responsibilitys now. Then look at the future relationships we have regards any number of departments (security, nuclear).
We know how much these things cost so wringing extra out of us won't work.
But the doom Sayers and screamers of project fear will have everyone believe we will sink at the merest hint of not getting EXACTLY what we have now while not realising what we get now isn't actually necessarily the best deal anyway.
Just bloody well get on with it regardless.
//TELL you what. I’m really looking forward to the day the British Government gets tired of being blackmailed by pygmies. Because I’m tired of it already.
The format for the Brexit talks is always the same. The politicians get together for a meeting.
Afterwards, the UK representatives — Theresa May or David Davis or Boris Johnson — emerge and say nice things about their counterparts.
And how the meeting was constructive and things are moving forwards.
And within a minute some jumped-up little panjandrum from the EU appears before the cameras to be insulting about the people he’s just been talking to. And then insulting to the people of the UK.
This has happened time and time again. The half-cut arch-idiot, Jean-Claude Juncker, did it. A couple of weeks ago it was the turn of some Irish lowlife called Phil Hogan, who stuck the boot into Boris. Phil’s presumably forgotten how the UK bailed out his country’s wrecked economy in 2012.
And this time it’s that perpetually smirking Pole, Donald Tusk. Patronising and rude.
He described Theresa May, condescendingly, as “more constructive, more realistic”. But said that talks were not really progressing.
Aren’t they, Donald? Well here’s the thing. Let’s stop them. Let’s pull out and tell them to stuff it.
These EU officials are determined to do two things. First, screw as much money out of us as possible. Money which, legally, we do not owe. Second, make the UK an “example” to other countries which might want to get the hell out of the rapidly sinking ship that is the EU.
So, it’s time to call their bluff. Exit the Brexit talks with the EU pygmies. Tell them they’re getting nowt. Not a single penny.//
As written by Rod Liddle. So very succinct.
The format for the Brexit talks is always the same. The politicians get together for a meeting.
Afterwards, the UK representatives — Theresa May or David Davis or Boris Johnson — emerge and say nice things about their counterparts.
And how the meeting was constructive and things are moving forwards.
And within a minute some jumped-up little panjandrum from the EU appears before the cameras to be insulting about the people he’s just been talking to. And then insulting to the people of the UK.
This has happened time and time again. The half-cut arch-idiot, Jean-Claude Juncker, did it. A couple of weeks ago it was the turn of some Irish lowlife called Phil Hogan, who stuck the boot into Boris. Phil’s presumably forgotten how the UK bailed out his country’s wrecked economy in 2012.
And this time it’s that perpetually smirking Pole, Donald Tusk. Patronising and rude.
He described Theresa May, condescendingly, as “more constructive, more realistic”. But said that talks were not really progressing.
Aren’t they, Donald? Well here’s the thing. Let’s stop them. Let’s pull out and tell them to stuff it.
These EU officials are determined to do two things. First, screw as much money out of us as possible. Money which, legally, we do not owe. Second, make the UK an “example” to other countries which might want to get the hell out of the rapidly sinking ship that is the EU.
So, it’s time to call their bluff. Exit the Brexit talks with the EU pygmies. Tell them they’re getting nowt. Not a single penny.//
As written by Rod Liddle. So very succinct.
I look forward to the day when the British government does tell the EU to stuff it, walks away with nothing, whistling cheerily as it does so -- and finds, for some unfathomable reason, that everyone else in the world is suddenly not quite so interested in dealing with us favourably because we show so little regard for anything other than exactly what "we" (as in David Davis and Liam Fox) want, and refuse to budge an inch from that.
What incentive is there to deal with a country that happily sticks two fingers up, even to an institution of which it has been a member for 40 years and more? Or are you all somehow of the opinion that the rest of the world will be falling over themselves to deal with us *on our terms*?
What incentive is there to deal with a country that happily sticks two fingers up, even to an institution of which it has been a member for 40 years and more? Or are you all somehow of the opinion that the rest of the world will be falling over themselves to deal with us *on our terms*?
"Does anyone remember voting to become a member of the EU?"
No because we were not afforded that right. The Lisbon Treaty fundamentally altered the constitution of the EEC and transformed it into even more of a political entity than it already was. This resulted in considerable loss of sovereignty for the member states. The electorates of all of them should have been asked if they agreed. Of those that were three declined but, of course, they were asked again until they got it right.
No because we were not afforded that right. The Lisbon Treaty fundamentally altered the constitution of the EEC and transformed it into even more of a political entity than it already was. This resulted in considerable loss of sovereignty for the member states. The electorates of all of them should have been asked if they agreed. Of those that were three declined but, of course, they were asked again until they got it right.
Oh Jim it will be stealth even when any other name is used. Because it will hoodwink the gullible but not those simply paying attention.
It's only €20 billion and for two years worth. Aren't we good at keeping costs under control.
All the many billions will be 'oh that. Yes well we have to pay that because....'
Although I do believe that the government should be left to get on with the negotiations (all the publicity just fuels the bullying and fear used by the EU) I think that at the end they should have the balls to say 'actually our contributions for the next two years (or however many they go for) is xxxbillion because a, b, c, d, e, f, and g have to be paid for.
Explain why it has to be paid and people will accept it more easily.
It's only €20 billion and for two years worth. Aren't we good at keeping costs under control.
All the many billions will be 'oh that. Yes well we have to pay that because....'
Although I do believe that the government should be left to get on with the negotiations (all the publicity just fuels the bullying and fear used by the EU) I think that at the end they should have the balls to say 'actually our contributions for the next two years (or however many they go for) is xxxbillion because a, b, c, d, e, f, and g have to be paid for.
Explain why it has to be paid and people will accept it more easily.
There does not seem to be any urgency on the side or Theresa May's negotiators, to keep to a timetable and keep to a deadline.
If the carrot is that when we leave, everything will be better and we will be saving tons of money, then you would think that they would fast track leaving. That they would agree to payup knowing that it will mean we leave sooner and begin to start saving sooner.
But that is not happening, and one wonders why ?
If the carrot is that when we leave, everything will be better and we will be saving tons of money, then you would think that they would fast track leaving. That they would agree to payup knowing that it will mean we leave sooner and begin to start saving sooner.
But that is not happening, and one wonders why ?
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