True Socialism Always Ends With The Stasi

[youngmafbog]

An article well worth the read.

It would be interesting to get some direct responses to the points raised by Daniel Finkelstein from our resident Socialists.

PLEASE: No name calling, no slanging or 'ists'.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/true-socialism-always-ends-with-the-stasi-g5dpl5nb9

[Khandro]

zacs, It's a big ask, but you really ought to try to understand what is being discussed before jumping in. My post at 15:53 refers to university debating societies, not the wider world and jim knows this.

[Zacs-Master]

Meh.

[RobNorth]

HH
"Eventually you run out of other people's money"
Arthur Scargill (back in the news) is probably a true Socialist - he's 79 and hasn't yet run out of other people's money....

[Khandro]

jim; Re. freedom of speech at universities, please read;
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/students-have-become-the-new-masters-and-the-result-is-campus-tyranny/

"At University College London (my alma mater, circa 1960's) a Nietzsche Society was banned for fear it might stoke far right thinking".

And in the same copy;
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/safe-spaces-and-ze-badges-my-bewildering-year-at-a-us-university/
She said, "I made the mistake of mentioning that I believed in objective standards in art. Some art is great, some isn't, I said not all artists are equally talented. This was deemed an undemocratic decision and I was given the nickname; 'The cultural Fascist'"

Returning from a Thanksgiving break with friends and their families with a variety of views which she would like to talk about, she receives an email from a Professor (!!!) "Dear all, I hope you are recovering well from Trump-supporting relatives ..."
Not exactly a climate conducive to freedom of speech - and it's starting here.