Putin And His Generals.

[sandyRoe]

It's said that Hitler meddling with the decisions of his senior officers hindered the Nazi war effort.
There was a report on the wireless this morning that Putin is going to take a closer role in the direction of the Russian forces who have invaded Ukraine.
If this happens can it be anything other than a good thing for the Ukrainian defenders?

[Peter Pedant]

Who knows dare history den?

The parallel I would make is Tsar Nicholas taking over direct command in 1917 - and sealing his fate - - - he was gonna
DDDIIIIIIEEEEEE ! if he failed which he did

[douglas9401]

He couldn't really make a bigger hash of the whole situation now, could he.

[Ken4155]

Had to look twice, then. Thought it said 'genitals' :-)

[wolf63]

A wireless¡!!!!!!!!! What dat den??

There is also the chance that if he gets up close and personal with the action one of his soldiers might shoot him.

[ynnafymmi]

Any day now Putin is going to get married to a well known ***(as Hitler did)and then put a bullet through his brain(as Hitler did).Cant come soon enough.

[ynnafymmi]

***=erohw(anagram).

[Khandro]

I hope the closer role means he will actually go to where the fighting is to see the destruction he has unleashed - so far he has hidden himself within the safety of the kremlin.
I sent him, addressed to the Kremlin, over a month ago a postcard I made with the picture of a white feather on a black ground, on the reverse I wrote, 'Coward & murderer' in Russian.
Of course he won't have seen it (because I haven't been novichoked yet) but someone will have.

[Paigntonian]

I just can't see Putin surviving much longer.

[Paigntonian]

Nice one Khandro.

[Peter Pedant]

bad sight day Ken
because of ynni anagram - erohw
I thought Putin....
was - - he's putting it around....
o god time for coffee

High flyers in London are crack-a-hoop ( geddit?) that Putin is micro-managing ( is that military?) because it means their campaign will fall apart

[jno]

yes, Stalin left his surviving generals to get on with it, and won. Hitler interfered and lost.

How involved was Churchill in the military?

[ToraToraTora]

yes jno, why not see if we can find something to be anti British about eh?

[jno]

???

I asked a question to which I do not know the answer. Do you?

[sandyRoe]

After Gallipoli, and much later the Dieppe Raid, Churchill must surely have seen the wisdom of the old adage, The Shoemaker should stick to his last.

[ichkeria]

Nice one khandro from me, too
I don't know if you look at the MFA (Russia) twitter account.
I believe the expression "pelters" is the expression that most aptly describe the abuse they get there :-)
You wonder why they bother, especailly as presumably none of their fan boys at home can access it ...
And the trolls presumably are too busy pestering everyone else

[Peter Pedant]

// Stalin left his surviving generals to get on with it,//
yeah some were even hooked out of a gulag given a uniform and taken to the Front!

makes a good story - Zhukov I think

TTT /jno
I think it was Alan Clarke who was invited to lecture on the war as he wished and suggested
Churchill - terrible war leader, great peace time politician

terrible war mistakes
Gallipoli of course - early start 1915 (*)
Dieppe
Invasion of Italy
betrayal of Yalta 1945 ( The naughty document etc, enslaving the East to Stalin) (+)
Oh of course, failing to bomb the death camps

Civil triumphs I hesitate to say return to gold standard 1931. (-)Sidney St Siege ( minor)

(*) for the POWs this mistake created see
The Road to En-dor: A True Story of Cunning Wartime Escape Paperback – Illustrated, 28 Feb. 2014
(+) for the POWs who were central to this see
Despite captivity : a doctor's life as prisoner of war / John Borrie. Borrie is an RAMC POW and is invited to inspect graves of Poles the Nazis have discovered in some reconquered lands ( Katyn). MI5 forbids it - how? he is a POW for chrissakes

[Peter Pedant]

How involved was Churchill in the military?

he got thro his generals - lose a battle and that was it.
after the first Battle of Alamein ( Ritchie got the bullet that time) he asked " have I no general who win a battle? "

so I dont thnk Churchill interfered militarily
Lloyd George ( who ws not Churchill - this is AB remember) LIED about allied strength to his generals ( what?) because he thought they were 'wasting' the tommies

[Peter Pedant]

who can win a battle
god sozza
I did get English O level

[Khandro]

Churchill had a bad WW1 - Dardanelles, Gallipoli, but a good WWII by inspiring Britain. He wasn't entirely responsible for the former, but he shone in the latter.
Putin couldn't inspire anyone to anything, he's a coward & a thug.

[youngmafbog]

We can but hope.

Nice one Khandro, hopefully a few have also sent him a turd in the post too.

Putin is an ex KGB Gangster. He is no military strategist.

Jno, I see you didnt ask anything about other World leaders. We know what you do, you have done it too often.