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Jackdaw33 | 01:00 Wed 21st Mar 2018 | Technology
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...do I need to put up with this crap?


Your device needs the latest security updates

Microsoft can't install important security updates on your PC until you fix the following issues:







•Disk space : You’ll need to create some disk space on your PC (8 GB required). Create space now

It appears at least three times a day. I have very few apps installed. As far as I am concerned W 10 can thrust their updates up their fundament but it is bleeding annoying to see this every so often.
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You could have something taking up a lot of space which doesn't immediately leap out at you. As an example, I listen to a lot of internet radio. To do so I simply click on a link in a web page. (i.e. I don't use a media player, such as Windows Media Player). However I found that I was running out of disk space and, when I investigated, it turned out that over half the disk was taken up by temporary files linked to Windows Media Player (even though I'd not knowingly been using it). So it's possible that you've also got loads of temporary files hogging loads of space.

Download, install and run the free version of CCleaner:
https://www.ccleaner.com/
(When you run it, just check that the 'Cleaner' section is selected in the left-hand panel and click the 'Run Cleaner' button. The default selections should be all you need to use).
That might free up quite a bit of space.

If that doesn't do the job, download, install and run WinDirStat, using this link:
https://www.fosshub.com/WinDirStat.html/windirstat1_1_2_setup.exe
That will allow you to explore exactly what it is that's taking up all the space.

If you really don't want all of the Windows 10 updates, the trick is to tell Windows that you're using a metered connection (i.e. one with a data cap). See here for the instructions:
https://www.howtogeek.com/226722/how-when-and-why-to-set-a-connection-as-metered-on-windows-10/
(Note that there are different instructions for wifi and Ethernet connections). You'll then only get the really important updates.
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Thanks for your usual skilled advice, Chico. I'll have to wait and see if it has worked. One thing it did do was log me out of AB and zap my avatar.
Your avatar's still there!
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It also kindly removed all my user names and passwords. Oh joy!
I use ccleaner often.

Untick saved passwords, auto complete, network passwords on the first page then click on "Applications, unclick similar items in Firefox, Google Chrome etc.

Then passwords logins etc. wont be deleted.

How much space on your disk did it create for you?
When you closed Ccleaner it will still be "monitoring cleaning requirements".
To close it completely right click the icon in your task bar and click exit.
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I carefully unticked usernames and passwords but it seemed to ignore it. As to how much space I have cleared, f*** knows. I will have to wait till the dreaded W 10 comes back.
These message will continue unless you do something about it. You cant moan about getting these message 3 times a day if you have not done to sort it out.

What device is this on (laptop. tablet?), and does it have a small SSD (Solid State Drive) as opposed to a large hard disk?

Note these are SECURITY updates and Microsoft don't issue them for their fun but to fix security issues with Windows. If you don't install them you are leaving yourself wide open to security hacks and perhaps the stealing of personal information from your computer.

It is fairly easy to check the size of your hard disk / SSD and how much space is left on it.
They issue them because they failed to get it right last time.
3 times a day isn't reminding though; it's nagging.
>>>They issue them because they failed to get it right last time.

NO computer software company gets it right first time.

EVERY piece of software ships with errors in it, many known about by the developers before it even ships.

I used to work for one of the largest computer companies in the world, and I was involved in software development.

Weeks before we shipped the software we froze the code, no more changes.

But errors were still found before it shipped, but we did NOT fix the errors as it may cause other errors in the code.

So we shipped the code with known errors, and then fixed them later.

Every company does this.

Microsoft have found security errors and have now fixed them and now want users to install them. It is right that they tell people that for some reason these fixes cant be installed.
I blame the software developers.
I have the same problem. I only have a cheap laptop which i use for internet and word/excel. It's only 28GB but that was more than enough for a couple of years. I usually had a few GB spare and I kept it that way by storing most of the docs and all music and photos on a pendrive, But then Windows 10 updates started trying to load. Each needed about 5GB which i just can't find. I've used CC, I clear my unwanted files by cleaning the C drive several time s aweek. I have removed unwanted programmes. I even temporarily removed MWB but some guff from Windows filled the space and now i can't get MWB back on.
I've tried to stop w10 updates but it still keeps trying. Wish I could stop it
I changed to a Mac ten and a half years ago.
No annoying messages, no intrusion at all.
And I don’t ever remember having to do the uninstall/take back to factory settings.
My first Mac desktop lasted me 10 years. It never packed up completely, just got a little too slow in then end.
My first iPad lasted me 6 years, and the only reason that was replaced, was because I was given a new one as a gift.

Although the initial cost is more, I think it’s well worth it, and I’ve never looked back.
“Note these are SECURITY updates and Microsoft don't issue them for their fun but to fix security issues with Windows.”

I’ve debated this topic many times before. They are not security updates – MS likes you to think that they are. As OG says, what they are are fixes for problems which have become evident in a product that was faulty when it was launched. I run Windows 8. I have had my machine since 2014 and I disabled the "security" updates after the first one took more than eight hours to download and install. I have independent security, anti-virus and anti-phishing software and have never suffered any security, virus or hacking problems.

By contrast Mrs NJ has a device running W10. It has a very small disc capacity (30Gb) but more than adequate for her needs. Because updates on W10 cannot be disabled (unless you are a software expert) she has the problem outlined by jackdaw. She is told she needs to free up 10Gb (10Gb, I ask you!) of disc space to accommodate the updates. She simply cannot (and in any case why should she be forced to dump stuff she wants to make room for stuff she doesn’t). Fortunately using Task Manager she has found a way to get the update routine to go away, but it is extremely annoying nonetheless.

Microsoft is getting away with murder. It provides an inadequate product which is in many respects unfit for purpose and troubles its users to update their version, with the latest batch of faults fixed, under the guise of “security”. OK give them the choice, but don’t force them to update with the latest faults fixed if they don’t want to, especially if it means they have to dump stuff they want.

Windows is an entirely over-the-top operating system. Most users don’t even use 10% of the facilities it provides (and most people don’t even know such facilities exist). It should do only what it says on the tin – operate the machine. I don’t expect the operating system on my washing machine to provide a facility for mending my boots and I don't expect it to have to be updated three times a day after meals. Bigbad definitely has the right idea.
It is obviously your computer has no space to download the security updates. So there two things you should do:

one is free up the disk space even if you do not want to upgrade the Windows 10 new updates. Check the temporary files, system files, etc. If you do not know how to do it, you can follow this tutorial: https://windows10skill.com/free-up-disk-space-windows-10/

And the second thing is stop Windows 10 auto-updates. But this will be risks for your Windows 10. Because updating the Windows 10 can update system files, drivers files and fix bugs. But if you think stop Windows 10 auto-updates is necessary, you can do it. There are several ways you can try: https://windows10skill.com/stop-windows-10-auto-updates/

Wish it can helps.

I have given up on Ccleaner
as I get a window
" you didnt really think we were FREE did you?"
Pay up!

bait and change again - simples
FF yeah I have a public 'dirty' computer
and that gets slapped around a bit
I also have a receipt book with all the passwords.... been cloned three or four times

and an isolated - dirtier hur hur hur - no clean, isolated pure computer for proper stuff ( tax, etc)

it still manages to communicate wiv Bill Gates ( bluue tooth and thro the router) but it is limited to one company once a month on th internet.

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