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I Wonder If Sofyen Belamouadden's Murder Will Still Be Remembered In Twenty Years Time?
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Who? I hear some ask, yes that is exactly my point.
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Interesting to note however that violent video games have been blamed for the murderous savagery of these thugs.
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Interesting to note however that violent video games have been blamed for the murderous savagery of these thugs.
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Mikey I thought after I should have put it in quotes. I meant no offence and apologise, unreservedly, to anyone who takes such.
However I wanted to emphasise a point that I have made many times to AOG about the nature and content of his posting.
If Stephen Lawrence wasn't of Afro-Caribbean descent I don't think AOG would be asking this (or other) questions about the case.
Indeed I await his, standard, impassioned defence and the accusation that I am being insulting
However I wanted to emphasise a point that I have made many times to AOG about the nature and content of his posting.
If Stephen Lawrence wasn't of Afro-Caribbean descent I don't think AOG would be asking this (or other) questions about the case.
Indeed I await his, standard, impassioned defence and the accusation that I am being insulting
What is your point,aog? That this, and lots,most indeed, of murders are forgotten ? Well, swipe me, there's a bit of news!
Have you bothered to think why the ones that are remembered are remembered ? If you have, what was the point of your startling glimpse of the obvious?
Video games, eh? And what makes you think that a policeman knows more than the scientists and researchers? Or does the policeman's thinking happen to coincide with your own?
Have you bothered to think why the ones that are remembered are remembered ? If you have, what was the point of your startling glimpse of the obvious?
Video games, eh? And what makes you think that a policeman knows more than the scientists and researchers? Or does the policeman's thinking happen to coincide with your own?
If one murder is remembered and another not, it's often for strange reasons that aren't too irrational. Lots of people died in Victorian London but Jack the Ripper's crimes are remembered above them all -- even Mary Ann Cotton is far less well-known. In the modern case Stephen Lawrence's murder is remembered primarily because his mother kept the case in the public eye -- and that, because she could not get justice in her eyes.
It's not comparing like with like. We have a case here where the criminals were charged and found guilty within about a year of the crime, and prosecuted far earlier than that. While the crime is sad, horrible and brutal, justice has also been seen to be done. That never was the case for Stephen Lawrence.
I wonder, too, if Madeleine McCann will be the only missing child case remembered from the last decade. Very possibly. That's because her parents kept the case in the public eye, and not for any more sinister reasons.
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Video games only ever act as a catalyst for violent people. I'm sure that they make an impression on those who would be violent and nasty and horrible and brutal. But you have to be "lost" already for it to make a real difference. If you can o longer distinguish between reality and fiction. And if that happened already, then the nastiest fiction will leak into reality. But if you have the barrier there, if you've been brought up to distinguish the two, then no amount of brutal massacring of pixels is gong to make you want to go out on the streets and do the same.
If people watch video games and then go out and be violent, they had already lost perspective.
It's not comparing like with like. We have a case here where the criminals were charged and found guilty within about a year of the crime, and prosecuted far earlier than that. While the crime is sad, horrible and brutal, justice has also been seen to be done. That never was the case for Stephen Lawrence.
I wonder, too, if Madeleine McCann will be the only missing child case remembered from the last decade. Very possibly. That's because her parents kept the case in the public eye, and not for any more sinister reasons.
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Video games only ever act as a catalyst for violent people. I'm sure that they make an impression on those who would be violent and nasty and horrible and brutal. But you have to be "lost" already for it to make a real difference. If you can o longer distinguish between reality and fiction. And if that happened already, then the nastiest fiction will leak into reality. But if you have the barrier there, if you've been brought up to distinguish the two, then no amount of brutal massacring of pixels is gong to make you want to go out on the streets and do the same.
If people watch video games and then go out and be violent, they had already lost perspective.
"I Wonder If Sofyen Belamouadden's Murder Will Still Be Remembered In Twenty Years Time?
Who? I hear some ask, yes that is exactly my point!
How dare you answer on our behalf, i know of this story very well so please don't imply we don't know this story or follow the news.
As stated before these are two completely different cases, 1 was a racist murder in which the police were completely incompetent and allegedly corrupted which led to a complete breakdown in community trust of the judical system.
The other was a gang/school related tif that led to a murder of someone within the same race (African )
It's amazing to see that you highlighted "Interesting to note however that violent video games have been blamed for the murderous savagery of these thugs."
Remember this comment is in the daily fail, allegedly coming from a police officer who was meant to have said "He said the teenagers had lost touch with reality because of violent computer games."
Which is then relayed by you to us, this sounds like a dangerous game of chines whispers if you ask me and are there any facts to point out this was true? Psychologist reports? Social worker reports? Anything? Let's play devils advocate here and even if he did say it what exactly is your point and what in video game playing marries the two cases together?
Does anyone else get the feeling that the daily fail after having been caught out so many times for deceit, misdirection and the encouragement of mass hysteria have now stealthily employed forum/chatroom users to bring their fail filled nuggets to the credulous masses under the guise of a trusted knowledgeable source?
Who? I hear some ask, yes that is exactly my point!
How dare you answer on our behalf, i know of this story very well so please don't imply we don't know this story or follow the news.
As stated before these are two completely different cases, 1 was a racist murder in which the police were completely incompetent and allegedly corrupted which led to a complete breakdown in community trust of the judical system.
The other was a gang/school related tif that led to a murder of someone within the same race (African )
It's amazing to see that you highlighted "Interesting to note however that violent video games have been blamed for the murderous savagery of these thugs."
Remember this comment is in the daily fail, allegedly coming from a police officer who was meant to have said "He said the teenagers had lost touch with reality because of violent computer games."
Which is then relayed by you to us, this sounds like a dangerous game of chines whispers if you ask me and are there any facts to point out this was true? Psychologist reports? Social worker reports? Anything? Let's play devils advocate here and even if he did say it what exactly is your point and what in video game playing marries the two cases together?
Does anyone else get the feeling that the daily fail after having been caught out so many times for deceit, misdirection and the encouragement of mass hysteria have now stealthily employed forum/chatroom users to bring their fail filled nuggets to the credulous masses under the guise of a trusted knowledgeable source?
Incidentally,and curiously, how many murder victims are remembered when the murderer is not? I can only think of one, Fanny Adams, murdered in 1867 by someone who was detected soon afterwards, tried and convicted, and whose name is not remembered at all. ( I ignore assassinations; Spencer Perceval is a famous victim because of his office ).
Fanny Adams was the original " Sweet Fanny Adams" (or "Sweet F A" as it was mistakenly euphemised). Her name is remembered because of the somewhat sick humour of the day.
Fanny Adams was the original " Sweet Fanny Adams" (or "Sweet F A" as it was mistakenly euphemised). Her name is remembered because of the somewhat sick humour of the day.
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