92 Professional Clubs

[albaqwerty]

in England, according to the chat on Talksport last night when ''they'' were discussing parachute payments.

Never understood parachute payments but it was explained well enough last night.

However, it wasn't mentioned if those in the second tier (Champions League??) who get relegated out into division below that get any. if not then surely it's not surprise that smaller clubs are struggling to survive?

[tonyav]

See if this helps, ah wench.


Clubs relegated from the Sky Bet Championship receive 11.1% of the Basic Award payment to Championship clubs for one season.
- Clubs relegated from Sky Bet League 1 receive 12.6% of the Basic Award payment to League 1 clubs for one season.

https://www.efl.com/news/2015/november/league-increases-parachute-payments-to-relegated-clubs/

[fiction-factory]

After the Premier League, the second tier is The Championship. Then it's the first divsion then the second

This helps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_parachute_and_solidarity_payments

The clubs in div one and two get very little TV coverage- the demand isn't there

[albaqwerty]

thank you both, gawd, it's complicated trying to understand footy stuff lol

Don't get me started on trying to work out which football club plays at strange sounding grounds :-)

[Canary42]

/// ... surely it's not surprise that smaller clubs are struggling to survive ///

You're quite right alba - Big Money is ruining football (along with some other sports).

[Canary42]

/// which football club plays at strange sounding grounds///

We (Norwich City, aka The Canaries) play at Carrow Road (the stadium address). Sadly, we've never stayed long enough in the Premier League to attract rich sponsors (which is where the strange-sounding ground names usually come from - e.g. Etihad, Emirates).

[albaqwerty]

It only seems like yesterday when the first £1million pound transfer happened. Seems to have snowballed to silly money.

I'm not picking on football especially, because, as you say, it is some other sports too.

As a boring aside, I remember being told at a young age that the mechanics at my dad's work didn't work overtime on a Wednesday or a Saturday, generally, because of the football.
Nowadays, it seems that there's a footy game on everyday!

[albaqwerty]

Etihad - Man U ??
Emirates - a London team - possibly Arsenal?
(very sorry if wrong)

Norwich City, thon nice guy, chef guy, is a supporter.
Galton Blakistock (sp)
Next season for the Canaries to go up :D

[Ken4155]

What's strange about the American Express Community Stadium? Ooops, i mean the AmEx:-// We do have a couple of sponsored stands at Turf Moor but there'd be an almighty fall out if changing the name of the stadium was ever suggested.

[albaqwerty]

aha, BHAFC, Ken !!
(ok, I googled lol)

Don't think Spurs will ever accept a change of name.

ooh, didn't that owner of Newcastle (another question for another time - hope the potential new owner gets the go ahead) try to change the name?

[Arksided]

If Old Trafford ever got renamed 'KOHLER stadia... or Glazier' I'd be totally shocked, It'd be like renaming Anfield 'Wheres your car gone. '

[albaqwerty]

ooh, Arky - :-))

Glazier Stadium is wrong on so many levels.

Wonder if Skinhead Stadium or We-ain't-thugs-just-misunderstood Stadium would be suitable for Millwall?

[Arksided]

Sorry for being a tad flippant Alba Xx and give you a genuine answer... your Q did make me think though... not many can do that.. ;-)

[Hopkirk]

If this question was accurate, the Baggies would be in the Champions League.

[fiction-factory]

The money given to Premier League and Championship clubs reflects the TV money ( Sky, BT, worldwide sales, etc). The lower divsion clubs don't really attract worthwhile TV audiences and probably get MORE than their fair share. Smaller clubs can benefit in another way though- by selling their better players for a few million pounds to the top clubs, so the money does filter down.
It's sad to see what's happening to Bolton, Bury, and some other lower league clubs but it's partly due to mismanagement, legacy high wages from the good times a few years ago, plus teh fact that there are not enough people wanting to pay to watch. There are thousands of non-league clubs who survive without TV money

[10ClarionSt]

The thing about the outrageous amount of money in football, is that people just accept it now as the norm.
"This player was an absolute bargain at £8m". That's a phenominal amount of money. Millions here, millions there. With all the money now in football, the Premier League clubs could let the fans in for nothing, but the fans accept it all. I don't think any player is worth a million pounds. Not one. But the agents do. They drive the price up. The higher the price, the better their share. And the fans are being taken for a big, big ride by being "conditioned" to the money factor. But it won't last. Nothing ever does. Something will come along and the burst the vastly inflated bubble that is the Premier League. And it will probably be something to do with money, bribes, betting etc. We'll see.

[Ken4155]

Have to agree with you there, 10C. I remember back in 2014 watching Burnley v Man Utd live on tv. As the United team were being introduced the commentator mentioned the £60m transfer fee Utd had just paid for Angel Di Maria, who was making his debut. "That," he said, "is more than Burnley have spent in total in their entire existence." A year later, Di Maria was shipped out to PSG for another mind-boggling fee of £44m. You could argue, of course, that the wages our top clubs pay their players does attract some of the best talent in the world but all that does is ensure that the richer the club, the more successful it will be. You say something will come along and burst the bubble but i believe that the bubble will only pop when the top/richest sides in Europe form their own league. To quote the film Wall Street, 'Greed is good'.

[CrapAtCryptics]

Many clubs are technically bankrupt but, despite the fact they are businesses and overpay their players, banks seem to grant them unreasonable leeway.