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Do You Agree That The Objective In Fox Hunting Is Not Only To Eradicate Pests (Like Foxes) But Is Also A Sport Which Combines Horse Riding In The Countryside With Hunting With A Pack Of Dogs

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willbewhatiwill | 10:53 Mon 31st Jul 2017 | Society & Culture
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Fox hunting is not necessarily an upper-class sport as there are working class people enjoying riding horses when fox hunting with dogs. In any case does it matter whether rich people or poor people enjoy a particular sport or recreation?

It is accepted in our collective consciousness that culling bacteria, viruses, rats, cockroaches, mosquitoes are acceptable; so is farming livestock for food or utilising animals for work. Sometimes it may be necessary to cull pests (like foxes, rats, grey squirrels, badgers, pigeons, etc) to prevent disease or to sustain food chains that are beneficial to humans. Whales are sometimes called 'cockroaches of the sea' as each whale eats tons of plankton every day. In the past, whales were culled for their oil & meat. Culling pests can be regarded as equivalent to using animals for food, work, vivisection for the development of new drugs, etc.

Hunting is a form of sport - equivalent to fishing, shooting ducks/partridges/pigeons. Fox hunting is an industry also employs people to look after the hunting dogs, horses & land in the countryside where the hunt occurs.

For those who say killing animals for fun, not out of necessity should not be allowed, eating meat from farm animals can sometimes be for fun too. Animals bred for specially for the sole purpose of experimentation, food or work are often kept in less cruel conditions than if those animals were living wild, fending a living for themselves. Animals living wild usually suffer death by disease, hunger, predation, etc. That’s life. Sometimes human civilisation needs are also urgent.

Specifically bred (or kept alive) animals are kept to achieve specific purposes - like farm animals for food, laboratory animals for vivisection, race horses for racing, partridge & hounds for fox hunting. Hounds are not pets, they are often kept by businesses/clubs that organize the hunting. Hounds are working animals - like race horses & greyhounds, guide dogs, police & military horses, etc.#

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/308553/FOI_Hunting_-_27_March_14_6454_Annex_A_Research.pdf states, “Legislation passed in Scotland in 2002 and England and Wales in 2004 banned the hunting of wild mammals with dogs with specific exemptions that allow red foxes (Vulpes vulpes) to be flushed from areas of terrain (‘coverts’) to be shot as a means of pest control. In England and Wales there is a limit of two dogs whereas in Scotland there is no limit”. The study described in the article found that a pack of hounds is considerably more effective than a pair of hounds used to flush foxes out to be shot.

Yes, conceivably, using packs of hounds (without having to observe the 'two dog' limit) to flush foxes out is more practicable & feasible than the present 'two dog limit regulation, as packs of dogs tend to hunt together.
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Yet more nonsensical, pointless diatribes.
Sometimes human civilisation needs are also urgent.

fox hunting is an urgent need of human civilisation? Well, I never.
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scooping,
If you believe that, why contribute.
Pretty sure it's not intended to iradicate pests (foxes) but to cull their numbers to a manageable level.

As for 'sport'......mmmm.
Eradicate. Tut.
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Zacs-Master,
OK seeking to eradicate to problem of pests.
Horse riding/racing, bull-fighting are also forms of sport.
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Zacs-Master,
I meant: OK seeking to eradicate THE problem of pests.
Scooping....yes I agree.

Will...whales were not "culled"....they were hunted, and nearly to extinction. I am not against whale hunting per se, but it needs to be done in a responsible and sustainable manner.

Foxes are not hunted for food, or anything else. While their numbers need to be controlled, hunting with dogs is a cruel and heartless way of doing it, and it has been rightly outlawed.

Oscar Wilde had it right....."the unspeakable in full pursuit of the uneatable."

There was relatively little chance of the law being repealed but now that Mrs May has abandoned most of Manifesto pledges, I can't see it happening again in my life time.
Erm.....ok.
I really don't think it's seeking to do that. If it is, it hasn't been very successful.
Yes, I do agree - and have said so on several occasions, usually bringing criticism onto me. :(
What pleasure people get out of killing animals, other than for survival, is beyond me.
//For those who say killing animals for fun, not out of necessity should not be allowed, eating meat from farm animals can sometimes be for fun too//
Eating is primarily for survival, any 'fun' or pleasure is secondry.

There is something seriously wrong with people that have to get their jollies from the suffering of other life forms.
I can't agree or disagree with your statement because the first part of the statement is patently untrue.
The first part of the statement (first paragraph, anyway) is true. I can't see anything that's sporting about it, though.
//Hunting is a form of sport//
So is bear baiting, dog fights etc. Do you approve of these also?

//Fox hunting is an industry also employs people //
So did the slave trade (chain/manacle makers etc) Because people make a living out of it, doesn't make it right.

//Animals bred for specially for the sole purpose of experimentation, food or work are often kept in less cruel conditions than if those animals were living wild,//
Ive worked on a farm, you'r wrong on so many levels.

Having worked on a farm, the idea that foxes are pests to livestock is also wrong. The farm on which I worked had 100's of free range chickens. An electric fence kept the foxes out. Problem sorted without having hooray Henrys chasing across the countryside in fancy dress in order to ''control'' the fox population.
From what I remember of the hunt (not that I got involved with it) is that yes, most of the followers just like a good unpredictable hack which is why they follow the hunt.
I meant the first part of the OP, not the additional essay.

'The Objective In Fox Hunting Is Not Only To Eradicate Pests (Like Foxes)'
Nailet - foxes are pests and they will wreak havok with your livestock given the chance. Farms that are acres wide can't have an electric fence around them. Hunt followers are not Hoorey Henries dressed in uniforms either. They are more likely to be wearing wax jackets and clothes from the local farm supplies shop.
Ah, sorry xx there aren't any excuses for it. If you want sport, go drag hunting.
*Nailit* Sorry - my typing goes to pot when I have been working all night

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