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Why Participate In R&S?
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I know its been asked before of unbelievers/atheists.
But what would this section of AB look like if it wasnt for the unbelievers/atheists??
The Catholics wouldnt really care too much. They just generally get on in life and leave others to it.
The JW's just post, hit and run.
The Fundies will post a bible verse or question that is supposed to convince us all to accept Bronze age belief.
If it wasnt for non believers this catagory wouldnt exist.
But what would this section of AB look like if it wasnt for the unbelievers/atheists??
The Catholics wouldnt really care too much. They just generally get on in life and leave others to it.
The JW's just post, hit and run.
The Fundies will post a bible verse or question that is supposed to convince us all to accept Bronze age belief.
If it wasnt for non believers this catagory wouldnt exist.
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I think that if you post in R & S you should expect to see postings from people who hold, sometimes very strongly, religious viewpoints.
I like to see comments from fellow Christians, although I don't always agree with their particular position.
For me as a Christian I am keen to witness my faith and hope to lead others on the journey to the Christian faith.
The mere reason someone posts implies to me at least some interest in religious or spiritual topics or why else would they bother?
I have zero interest in metalwork and I spend zero amount of time on metalwork forums
I like to see comments from fellow Christians, although I don't always agree with their particular position.
For me as a Christian I am keen to witness my faith and hope to lead others on the journey to the Christian faith.
The mere reason someone posts implies to me at least some interest in religious or spiritual topics or why else would they bother?
I have zero interest in metalwork and I spend zero amount of time on metalwork forums
//For me as a Christian I am keen to witness my faith and hope to lead others on the journey to the Christian faith//
How exactly have you managed to lead others on a journey to Christian faith here?
Same goes to Theland.
Or goodlife for that matter (A JW)
All that you ever get (when questioned) is 'research it yourself'....
R&S Would die without the imput of unbelievers.
How exactly have you managed to lead others on a journey to Christian faith here?
Same goes to Theland.
Or goodlife for that matter (A JW)
All that you ever get (when questioned) is 'research it yourself'....
R&S Would die without the imput of unbelievers.
You're wrong Nailit.
There's a million and one things believers could discuss, and many do on dedicated websites.
Just one of the problems is when posts written by people who know nothing of the subject matter, rather lazily dismiss the whole subject with a metaphorical wave of their arm and an equally lazy phrase or two, that is supposed to be impressive and is anything but.
You claim to have read the bible more times than you've had hot dinners, yet you still fail to appreciate the composition, of allegory, metaphor, anecdote, poetry, prose, and even less of an appreciation of the people for whom it was written to, with their own literary traditions and nuances, and the influences imposed by foreign conquest.
It as a far deeper subject than is ever really addressed on here.
So once again you have made an erroneous assumption that unbelievers are the lifeblood of this section.
Sorry to undervalue your frequent posts, but I think you are just plain wrong.
There's a million and one things believers could discuss, and many do on dedicated websites.
Just one of the problems is when posts written by people who know nothing of the subject matter, rather lazily dismiss the whole subject with a metaphorical wave of their arm and an equally lazy phrase or two, that is supposed to be impressive and is anything but.
You claim to have read the bible more times than you've had hot dinners, yet you still fail to appreciate the composition, of allegory, metaphor, anecdote, poetry, prose, and even less of an appreciation of the people for whom it was written to, with their own literary traditions and nuances, and the influences imposed by foreign conquest.
It as a far deeper subject than is ever really addressed on here.
So once again you have made an erroneous assumption that unbelievers are the lifeblood of this section.
Sorry to undervalue your frequent posts, but I think you are just plain wrong.
Theland - “... [atheists] still fail to appreciate the composition, of allegory, metaphor, anecdote, poetry, prose, and even less of an appreciation of the people for whom it [the Bible] was written to, with their own literary traditions and nuances...”
What I find interesting about your above statement that all of the points made are entirely subjective and have no provable factual validity. They say nothing about the veracity of the biblical texts:
Allegory = figurative treatment; symbolism = not factual
Metaphor = suggestive of resemblance; not literal = not factual
Anecdote = alleged personal account = not necessarily factual
Poetry = rhythmical composition often allegorical and/or metaphorical = not necessarily factual
Prose = see Poetry
What you're essentially asserting – without any proof whatsoever – is that atheists fail to understand the biblical texts because they cannot appreciate nuance and are incapable of reading between the lines to extract the 'true' meaning.
You're quite incorrect in assuming that just because atheists don't believe the Bible to be literally true does not therefore mean that they fail to appreciate the allegorical, metaphorical and poetic qualities of the texts. I can see them and appreciate them very well and I'm sure that I'm not alone in this. The difference is, atheists don't believe that the words were inspired by God. They believe that it is the work of man and man alone. For instance, I and many other atheists can appreciate the literary qualities Dante Alighieri's 'Divine Comedy' without accepting it as a literal truth.
Theland - “... once again you [Nailit] have made an erroneous assumption...”
Psychological projection in a nutshell.
What I find interesting about your above statement that all of the points made are entirely subjective and have no provable factual validity. They say nothing about the veracity of the biblical texts:
Allegory = figurative treatment; symbolism = not factual
Metaphor = suggestive of resemblance; not literal = not factual
Anecdote = alleged personal account = not necessarily factual
Poetry = rhythmical composition often allegorical and/or metaphorical = not necessarily factual
Prose = see Poetry
What you're essentially asserting – without any proof whatsoever – is that atheists fail to understand the biblical texts because they cannot appreciate nuance and are incapable of reading between the lines to extract the 'true' meaning.
You're quite incorrect in assuming that just because atheists don't believe the Bible to be literally true does not therefore mean that they fail to appreciate the allegorical, metaphorical and poetic qualities of the texts. I can see them and appreciate them very well and I'm sure that I'm not alone in this. The difference is, atheists don't believe that the words were inspired by God. They believe that it is the work of man and man alone. For instance, I and many other atheists can appreciate the literary qualities Dante Alighieri's 'Divine Comedy' without accepting it as a literal truth.
Theland - “... once again you [Nailit] have made an erroneous assumption...”
Psychological projection in a nutshell.
Theland - “If it wasnt for non believers this catagory wouldnt exist.”
Would you rather live in a echo chamber?
I always find it amusing when politicians and other ideologues are lambasted in the press when they change their views on a particular topic when new evidence comes to light. A person changing their firmly held opinion is frowned upon by a large swathe of society. I find this perplexing.
To paraphrase Paul Samuelson:
“When new evidence comes to light, I change my opinion. What do you do?”
Would you rather live in a echo chamber?
I always find it amusing when politicians and other ideologues are lambasted in the press when they change their views on a particular topic when new evidence comes to light. A person changing their firmly held opinion is frowned upon by a large swathe of society. I find this perplexing.
To paraphrase Paul Samuelson:
“When new evidence comes to light, I change my opinion. What do you do?”
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