One Question And Answer At A Time If We Can?

[Theland]

1st Question - Do you believe in a universal law of cause and effect?
(Brief answers?)

[Canary42]

What does the law state ?

[maggiebee]

No

[naomi24]

You say you have answers that satisfy you. Why then do other opinions matter so much?

[Theland]

Well thank you so far, especially for brevity.
Others opinions are important in the interests of polite conversation.

[pixie374]

Not sure... what does that really mean please?

[Theland]

It means everything and everybody you experience has a prior cause.
Apples, apple trees, Apple seeds, Apple trees, apples etc etc.
Pixie, Pixies parents, grandparents, great grandparents etc etc.

[pixie374]

Thanks :-). I think we have been through this before, though... and mostly people think there is a cause. Except from you, who thinks that God just always existed without a cause? X

[Theland]

There has to be a first cause, otherwise we are faced with infinite regression.

[pixie374]

But not a first cause for a God?

[Theland]

God has his own cause for existence beyond and outside of things created.

[pixie374]

But theland, most people seem to accept there is a cause already. You are the only person on here, that claims something already existed without a cause. So, I don't understand why you are trying to persuade other people of something that they already believe, but you don't?

[vulcan42]

(A)\\ There has to be a first cause, otherwise we are faced with infinite regression.//
(B)\\ God has his own cause for existence beyond and outside of things created.//
A cancels B.

[Theland]

God simply is.
His own name for Himself is,"I am."
Neither past of future but eternal presence.

[pixie374]

That is totally unreasonable, theland.
Anyone could equally claim that the universe 'simply is'. What is your evidence that God has always just... existed?

[Arksided]

One of my favourites quotes is...

The only Universal constant is change

I think it's one of Alberts.

[vulcan42]

What you're basically saying is God created everything but nothing created God. I presume your God created logic, unfortunately you don't apply it.

[Theland]

Pixie - Are you simply saying you don't know?
Or do you have your own opinion?

[Theland]

Vulcan - Then I must bow to your wisdom that is greater than any God.

[pixie374]

Yes theland, I have my own opinion, which is- I don't know. Nothing has persuaded me enough in any way to "know". Nobody knows anyway..... if they did, they would have the proof enough to convince everyone else.

[pixie374]

I'm not claiming to know... which you are, so it is fair to ask you questions, isn't it?