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Who Was Jesus?
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In response to Nailit’s observation that “It’s gone a bit quiet on here”, in an effort to generate a little discussion that might be of interest to all, ASSUMING THE MAN JESUS EXISTED, who do you think he might have been – and what are your reasons for reaching your conclusion?
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Interesting..... If Jesus isn't the son of God how would you explain the resurrection ? The people at the foot of the cross wrapped him in a linen cloth and placed him in a tomb - not something you would do for someone who was still alive . They were astonished to see him risen a couple of days later .
With his birth , Joseph knew he didn't impregnate Mary , so who did ?
Why would aliens choose Palestine and not , say , Rome ? - assuming that the aliens were not familiar with the scriptures .
Joseph's lineage pinned Mary to Bethlehem at the time of the census , enabling that part of the scriptures to be fulfilled .
With his birth , Joseph knew he didn't impregnate Mary , so who did ?
Why would aliens choose Palestine and not , say , Rome ? - assuming that the aliens were not familiar with the scriptures .
Joseph's lineage pinned Mary to Bethlehem at the time of the census , enabling that part of the scriptures to be fulfilled .
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The wise men went home by a different route ( instead of returning to Herod - they aren't called wise for nothing ) This gave Mary and Joseph the chance to flee to Egypt ( Why India Naomi? ).
Jesus did not appear to be anti-Roman ( pay onto Ceasar what is Ceasars...) - he saved most of his ire for the Jewish Hierarchy of the day . Pilate almost bends over backwards to avoid crucifying Jesus , he comes up with a brilliant plan to bring along the thug Barabas and hold a vote......which he then loses...
The wise men went home by a different route ( instead of returning to Herod - they aren't called wise for nothing ) This gave Mary and Joseph the chance to flee to Egypt ( Why India Naomi? ).
Jesus did not appear to be anti-Roman ( pay onto Ceasar what is Ceasars...) - he saved most of his ire for the Jewish Hierarchy of the day . Pilate almost bends over backwards to avoid crucifying Jesus , he comes up with a brilliant plan to bring along the thug Barabas and hold a vote......which he then loses...
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If jesus was not the son of God how do you explain the fact that his message has survived 2000 years and struck a resonant chord in the heart of billions ?
Jesus said to Peter " Thou art rock and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it "
Is there any sign that the gates of hell have prevailed against it ?
Peter and the Apostles and Paul ( who converted from high ranking jew) preached Jesus's message under conditions of persecution and threat of death . They were eventually martyred . Would they have done this to promote something which is fiction ?
The message grew relentlessly , encompassing the conversion of Constantine . The Roman empire fell but the Church continued to grow in to what it is now , having gone through the reformation and schisms and it is still here now . Is it all based on fiction ?
If jesus was not the son of God how do you explain the fact that his message has survived 2000 years and struck a resonant chord in the heart of billions ?
Jesus said to Peter " Thou art rock and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it "
Is there any sign that the gates of hell have prevailed against it ?
Peter and the Apostles and Paul ( who converted from high ranking jew) preached Jesus's message under conditions of persecution and threat of death . They were eventually martyred . Would they have done this to promote something which is fiction ?
The message grew relentlessly , encompassing the conversion of Constantine . The Roman empire fell but the Church continued to grow in to what it is now , having gone through the reformation and schisms and it is still here now . Is it all based on fiction ?
This thread has followed entirely predictable lines.
So many see it as an opportunity to display their own apparent cleverness and humour.
You can insult Jesus as much as you like. He can take it. He took it before.
I believe He is the Son of God as He claimed, and will one day be the One before whom we will all stand to give account of ourselves.
I find it so sad that so many use throwaway phrases and comments to inflate their own egos and ignore the evidence so well articulated by so many extremely well educated people, whose lectures are freely available on the Internet.
The evidence is there for anybody willing to commit to looking for it.
So many see it as an opportunity to display their own apparent cleverness and humour.
You can insult Jesus as much as you like. He can take it. He took it before.
I believe He is the Son of God as He claimed, and will one day be the One before whom we will all stand to give account of ourselves.
I find it so sad that so many use throwaway phrases and comments to inflate their own egos and ignore the evidence so well articulated by so many extremely well educated people, whose lectures are freely available on the Internet.
The evidence is there for anybody willing to commit to looking for it.
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