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They're a right not nasty lot, aren't they?
Subsidiary question: how many bombs have been planted by JWs? how many beheadings?
My granddad played the accordion, My aunt played the organ and my uncle played the harmonica. So why coming from such a musical family can't I sing a note in tune ;-(
Anywhere he liked Ag.
The Christian Mission was the original name of the Salvation Army.
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v_e - plottings of a different kind from The Watchtower!!

Revelations in this article...

1. They are deluded.
(*** I never worked that out for myself)

2. If you leave the congregation, no one will talk to you.
(Right, and why is that a bad thing?).

3. They pressurised someone who left, and he jumped into a river and drowned. (I can't help but feel that this is not the full story, and other factors led to his suicide).

4. They try to deal with child abuse within the church and not involve the Police (which is exactly what every other faith does RCs, CofE, muslims, Jews. None go out of their way to bring bad publicity into the public limelight).

5. They started to notice it was flawed and did not make any sense. (unfortunately they did not twig that that applies to all religions. They just moved to another equally barmy version they could cope with).
There is a damage which can be caused by sects, Ag. JWs, Scientology etc are money making scams. There are victims of these scams, but not that many.

Broader and wider ideological visions of how mankind can be improved (Communism, Nazism, Fascism, Islamism) don't care how many eggs are to be smashed in the cause if the omelette.

Understood 1 to 4. What does 5 mean?
V.E.,
5. They saw that JWs was not the true religion, so they moved on to another which they will also see through. Because basically all religions are athe same, and equally flawed.
Everything is flawed until the new upgraded version is available.
Not surprised at all.
If 'God' (by all accounts) failed to get it right the first time, why should the believer expect 'Jehovah' to be any different?
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v_e > There is a damage which can be caused by sects, Ag. JWs, Scientology etc are money making scams. There are victims of these scams, but not that many.

Do you think people lose a sense of perspective about JW's. i.e they can't do that much serious harm when compared to the threat of radical Islam for instance?
They are quite tame , compared to the Church Of Scientology
They are also very cunning. They usually have a smartly dressed child in tow which makes people less likely to be rude to them.
That one form of torture might be less painful than another doesn't make any form of torture any less painful.
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Jackdaw - good point! They are very well presented when I have seen them doing the rounds.

Mibs - I agree torture is torture but I just wonder if JW's suffer more abuse than most?

I guess this ties in with Goodlife's 'vehemence' thread.Maybe,he will enlighten us at some point.
//Mibs - I agree torture is torture but I just wonder if JW's suffer more abuse than most?//

If knocking on doors is any indication . . . they must relish it.
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Mibs - I've seen groups many a time on my estate (often recognising the same people).I've observed that virtually nobody answers the door as they can be spotted a mile off.

Their trudging of the streets is always half-hearted and leisurely almost to the point that torpor has them well in their grip.It's as if they are resigned to not speaking to anyone.

I just don't get the purpose of it.They are on a hiding to nothing...
Agchristie,
They have report cards to fill in and targets to meet. Their progress (or lack of it) is monitored and grand statists produced
There reward isn't on your estate, the reward is a good seat near the radiator in heaven.

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