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A Modern Inquisition
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If we rleligionists are to fight back against the tide of atheism, should we campaign for a modern Inquisition?
Such a movement would of course have to politically correct, and not cross the boundaries of the Strasbourg laws.
So, what sticks could we adapt to go with our carrots?
Such a movement would of course have to politically correct, and not cross the boundaries of the Strasbourg laws.
So, what sticks could we adapt to go with our carrots?
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Amazing - Theist response to non belief and challenges to their fairy tale mythology? The stick - coercion.
Where would you draw the line Theland? Auto da Fe, like the first inquisition?Or perhaps just mild in comparison correctional beatings by the religious police? Paid informers maybe? Snatch squads to abduct infidels in the middle of the night?
Stock answer of those of religion - "God is Love" - Where is the love in your post above?
Fear, Xenophobia, irrationality - all exhibited in your post, and increasingly those characteristics seem to define the mindset of fervent faith-heads.
Where would you draw the line Theland? Auto da Fe, like the first inquisition?Or perhaps just mild in comparison correctional beatings by the religious police? Paid informers maybe? Snatch squads to abduct infidels in the middle of the night?
Stock answer of those of religion - "God is Love" - Where is the love in your post above?
Fear, Xenophobia, irrationality - all exhibited in your post, and increasingly those characteristics seem to define the mindset of fervent faith-heads.
//So, what sticks could we adapt to go with our carrots?//
Are you advocating to portray your belief with a more attractive smoke screen?
Indeed, it is the religionist that thinks outside the commonsensible square, so simply supply some unadulterated scientific proof of your faith and many irreligionists will be persuaded to reconsider.
Are you advocating to portray your belief with a more attractive smoke screen?
Indeed, it is the religionist that thinks outside the commonsensible square, so simply supply some unadulterated scientific proof of your faith and many irreligionists will be persuaded to reconsider.
Theland1 -
I realise your original question has been posted (largely) in jest.
That being said, I fear your cause is already lost. I would suggest that today, the man in the street is more scientifically aware and more sceptical than at any other point in history. Combine that with the near instantaneous communication that the internet has given us with the ability to cross-check other people's claims and you have a recipe for a rejection of theocratic authority and a rise in sceptical atheism.
Church congregations continue to fall across almost every western nation. Islam is on the rise in Europe but not because it is a more attractive doctrine than Christianity but largely due to mass international migration. However, eventually it too will decline as second and third generation Islamic immigrants are are confronted with rational, sceptical, science and the ability to speak their minds freely.
All organised religion is predicated on the idea of restricting the individual member from thinking for themselves and asking questions that may prove difficult to answer by those in authority. This is how the Abrahamic religions work and it is why – in the so-called 'information age' we live in – they will all inevitably fall into disuse and ultimately be rejected.
I realise your original question has been posted (largely) in jest.
That being said, I fear your cause is already lost. I would suggest that today, the man in the street is more scientifically aware and more sceptical than at any other point in history. Combine that with the near instantaneous communication that the internet has given us with the ability to cross-check other people's claims and you have a recipe for a rejection of theocratic authority and a rise in sceptical atheism.
Church congregations continue to fall across almost every western nation. Islam is on the rise in Europe but not because it is a more attractive doctrine than Christianity but largely due to mass international migration. However, eventually it too will decline as second and third generation Islamic immigrants are are confronted with rational, sceptical, science and the ability to speak their minds freely.
All organised religion is predicated on the idea of restricting the individual member from thinking for themselves and asking questions that may prove difficult to answer by those in authority. This is how the Abrahamic religions work and it is why – in the so-called 'information age' we live in – they will all inevitably fall into disuse and ultimately be rejected.
Yes, 'twas ever thus. Just look at the fuss there was when somebody produced a bible in the native language of the people! Reminiscent of 1066 And All That on the peasants in revolt chanting 'When Adam delved and Eve span, Who was then the gentleman?' "The answer was, of course, Adam,but the Church had concealed this dangerous knowledge"
Churches like their mysteries to be known and explained only by the Churches.
How about forcing those who don't attend church to attend Colchester's home games instead ? (Choose a local team of similar attainment, to suit) Of course, that leaves the Summer, but it's a start.
Churches like their mysteries to be known and explained only by the Churches.
How about forcing those who don't attend church to attend Colchester's home games instead ? (Choose a local team of similar attainment, to suit) Of course, that leaves the Summer, but it's a start.
@ Naomi - I havent read enough of Thelands posts to know when they are speaking in jest.Having recently read Careys article, I took Thelands words to be a genuine response.
One of the many reasons why discussions on the internet can get so heated - very little visual or tonal clues to allow one to determine whether or not a poster is being serious or not :)
One of the many reasons why discussions on the internet can get so heated - very little visual or tonal clues to allow one to determine whether or not a poster is being serious or not :)
LG, just thought I’d mention it. Theland is a very devout Christian - and I’ve no doubt he would convert us all if he could – hence his question. However, he has a brilliantly ridiculous sense of humour, and in amongst the wrangling, we’ve had a lot of fun here in the past. I’ve been telling him for years he ought to try writing comedy – and I mean it. He has a real talent for it.
Sorry, Theland, we’re talking about you. ;o)
Sorry, Theland, we’re talking about you. ;o)
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