Is this a ghost?

[RATTER15]

I mentioned in a previous thread about a photo I have with a "ghost" have a look and see what you think. I don't actually believe in ghosts but this photo has me questioning my belief just a little.

The photo was taken with a phone/camera, I know it has not been manipulated and I know the person who took the photo very well, she has never seen the the little girl in the back ground.

Im certainly not saying this is a ghost but I cant explain how this has happened either.

See the pic here.

http://i106.photobuck...erimaginaryfriend.jpg

[pa___ul3]

exactly, but in the argument over ghosts, it makes more sense to me that human brain works in weird ways and may erroneously perceive something than the souls of the odd dead person is willing to manifest itself to only a few people every now and then.
I don't mean to condescend or suggest that what you believe you saw is definitely not true, that's just the logical explanation. There are all kinds of theories that support the potential for ghosts but they all boil down to possibilities beyond our realms of knowledge, which isn't to say they don't exist. I don't have quite as much faith in human knowledge as many do.

[Vicasso]

It looks posed to me : the main subject is well to the left of the frame.
If there was a nice view on the right, I could understand the positioning, but I wouldn't put the main subject there so that I could include a half opened door.

[NOX]

As Vicasso says it's obviously staged because of the unnatural positioning of the main subject plus the fact that pretty much every kid in the world uses the app that created it.

[Khandro]

Qix has answered comprehensively; next question please.

[cazzz1975]

I wonder why the app makers chose to position the girl facing away instead of a head on shot looking at the camera, it would be a bit more convincing that way

[grasscarp]

It is annoying when people try to write off something that you have really experienced and put it down to an overactive imagination. I wont mention what happened on Answerbank again.

[hc4361]

There are lots of different ghosts in those apps, facing different ways. it would have been better to have the girl on the other side of the door with the ghost looking at her.
Better still to have picked a bigger ghost or used a more distance shot.

[cazzz1975]

you will find that on here grasscarp, I have had experiences so I can see where you are coming from, some people need to experience things for themselves first hand before they accept that there is some weird stuff out there.

[Mick-Talbot]

Qix has answered comprehensively; next question please.



My question is are Ratter and the woman who took the photo still friends ? ;0)

[Ankou]

"Better still to have picked a bigger ghost or used a more distance shot."

better still to have picked a ghost dressed in victorian clothing, or a hooded monk/headless horseman etc etc. much more "convincing".

[cazzz1975]

yes agree ankou, she looks like a modern sulky teen

[pa___ul3]

I'm not saying it's an overactive imagination, nor that what you believe you saw you genuinely believe you saw without any bias, it's just not convincing enough an argument for me to suddenly start believing in ghosts because my counter argument in my head is much stronger and until I see one myself, I'll probably always be the same.
People can be mistaken, then, especially with secptics, you can start to make yourself believe more by adding details that weren't necessarily there.
I don't think it's a massive coincidence that most people see ghosts at night, when they're half asleep. But again, that's my logic as a sceptic. If you saw a ghost you saw a ghost, you've no need to convince me or anyone.

[flip_flop]

grasscarp - you seem to be getting annoyed because paul has written of your experience. I also have to write off your experience. This is because I don't believe in ghosts, and you saying you've seen one won't make me change my mind and believe in them. Would you believe somebody if they told you they'd seen the tooth fairy?

[grasscarp]

Thanks Cazz for your support.

[Ankou]

"transient images, usually seen only for seconds and you are left wondering yourself what you did see. The majority of people will go their whole life not seeing one"

50% of people will say it was defo a ghost
50% of people would say its random brain actvity/imagination

don't be offended grasscarp its just human nature. i feel the same way about alien abductions/sightings and religious experiences.

[grasscarp]

Flip flop, I have decided I wont involve myself in any other threads related to ghosts because there are people who cannot bear to acknowledge that there are things going on that they do not fully understand or have not experienced for themselves. End of.

[pa___ul3]

to be honest, I'm not writing off your experience Grasscarp, I believe what you honestly believe you saw was a ghost, I'm just inclined to think that surely it was a trick of the light that caught something and your mind filled in the blanks or something like that because I simply can't bring myself to blindly believe in something I can't get my head round. It's very, very possible that you're right and I'm wrong, but as Cazzz said, I can't believe something until I've seen it for myself or it makes sense to me.

[whiskeryron]

I don't know whether or not the experiences of other people are real or imagined but I am getting really p***ed off with a/bers who categorically state ''There is no such thing as''----, because they have not experienced the same. May I respectfully point out to you that it is a fact that some animals can hear sounds that are outside our ability to hear, is it then so improbable that there are visual things that are also outside our very narrow visual sense. Or are you going to be bold or arrogant enough to say ''I SAY it is not there, therefore it is NOT there. Rant over.

Ron.

[NOX]

I must admit that I'm with Grasscarp on this- I have seen and experienced things but I don't tend to talk about it on here because the ' scientific proof brigade' just launch into their usual ''if you can't prove it- it doesn't exist'' rants- which is not necessarily true.

[pa___ul3]

and I've said, I completely acknowledge that there are things going on that I don't understand, but those have at least some foundation or proof, word of mouth, as in the case of religion, is not a strong enough argument to sway my belief which I have come to through rational thinking, however wrong I may be, it must be the only way to come to a belief.