quran 16:69 explained

[sacha.86]

Does any one understand the message being delivered in 16:69 it states there is a lesson for thoughs that give thought.. I still dont understand any help pls

[sacha.86]

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[sandyRoe]

"Follow the design of your Lord precisely."
"This should be sufficient proof for people who reflect."
Is it telling you that to follow the teachings is enough. You need no proof?

[birdie1971]

Have you got the right verse? My understanding of 16:69 is the following...

“Then eat from all the fruits and follow the ways of your Lord laid down [for you]." There emerges from their bellies a drink, varying in colours, in which there is healing for people. Indeed in that is a sign for a people who give thought”

or possibly...

“Then eat of all fruits, and follow the ways of thy Lord, made smooth (for thee). There cometh forth from their bellies a drink divers of hues, wherein is healing for mankind. Lo! herein is indeed a portent for people who reflect.”

or maybe...

“Then eat from all the fruits, following the design of your Lord, precisely. From their bellies comes a drink of different colours, wherein there is healing for the people. This should be (sufficient) proof for people who reflect.”


The verse is about Honey Bees apparently.

[Ankou]

yes, honey is basically bee vomit. it comes from several-times-regurgitated-in-the-tummy of a bee nectar.

honey in ancient times was believed to have marvellous healing powers for bones, burns and other ailments when taken straight from the hive.

effectively, the verse is about your 5 a day and some warm honey, keeping the doctors away or summink.

[sacha.86]

Im slow things take time to dawn on me I understand for now lol. Thanks everyone

[keyplus90]

This verse has been explained a little bit here,

http://scanislam.com/...aling-power-of-honey/

This chapter is called “Nahal” and that means “Honey bee” but I know that your main question was that “there is lesson for those who think”. But you are not sure what lesson.

To understand it fully you need to read two verses before this one “67 and 68” which speaks about the ability God gave to the bee to move around different terrains without losing her sense of direction (back home). The lesson is about the abilities, wisdom and characteristics God has given to a bee that is supposed to be so week, fragile and tiny kind of insect. This small insects moves around to hundreds (if not thousands) of different flowers sometime far away from the hive and collects tiny amounts of good things from flowers and converts that into something so full of goodness for human. In other words God has given the ability to do something so complex to an insect so small.

Then following verses talk about human being born and die and resurrected and God claims that if he is able to make a bee do something which human are unable to do with all of the wisdom then he is quite capable of bringing you back from the dead.

[keyplus90]

I meant "Weak".

[Ankou]

oh, do you think that this god disapproves of the waggle dance that bees do, its rather provocative and knowing what this god is like with people what dress improper and do rudey dancing, thought he might sort of cast them to the devil or just request a jihad perhaps ?

[birdie1971]

Keyplus - “... The lesson is about the abilities, wisdom and characteristics God has given to a bee that is supposed to be so week, fragile and tiny kind of insect...”

Is the bee regarded as a weak, fragile and tiny insect? If it is, I'm unaware of that fact.

Weak? Hardly – it can sting you. I have been stung by a bee and I can assure you that I considered it anything but weak. Fragile? Not really. Given the bee's sting, it would be hard to describe the bee as a fragile insect. Tiny? Again, not really very small at all as far as insects go. It's actually on the large size hence the old debate over whether it should be able to fly or not...


From 16:65 to 16:71 the Koran is simply waffling – throwing platitudinous claims hither and thither about how Allah has provided mankind with honey from bees, milk from cattle, fruit from the trees and life giving rain. It's all very spiritual.

And utter tripe of course seeing as Allah, or God, or Yahweh or whatever He's called (depending on your religion) didn't provide humans with any of the above for the very simple and obvious reason that God doesn't exist.

[mibn2cweus]

All it takes is one 'carefully' aimed throw of a rock at a beehive to realise just how 'weak' they actually are . . . no explanations needed!

If you need proof, nothing teaches quite as effectively as first hand experience . . . I've been touched by their needlely appendage.

[tweaker]

I think chapter/book 2: 2:79 sums up all. Regarding falseness.

[sacha.86]

Its like misson impossible theres definite progress will never rest until my mind is on the same wave length as what I am reading

[Ankou]

i always like to keep my mind beyond what i am reading.

[sacha.86]

Or should I say until what I am reading makes perfect sense to me

[Ankou]

perhaps there is no sense in what you are reading, perfect or otherwise. sometimes you need to ask yourself, 'what is this all about'. sometimes the answer is: this is just garbled nonsense.

and you accept it and move on.