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Where Is The Condemnation? Or Does This Lack Of Condemnation Suggest Tacit Approval?
When an Islamist extremist commits an act of terrorism, some claim that a lack of condemnation from ordinary Muslims is tantamount to tacit approval.
When a white extremist carries out a bloodthirsty racist attack - should we expect the same condemnation from white people?
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When a white extremist carries out a bloodthirsty racist attack - should we expect the same condemnation from white people?
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It's sad that many Americans show more respect for the 2nd Amendment than they do for the concept that people should be able to go about their lives in peace. I think after the Sandy Hook shootings it became clear nothing was going to chance.
13:27 Sun 15th May 2022
naomi24
I certainly do (condemn this terrorist attack).
Do you?
And white supremacists have one thing in common...they're white. They share the same racial identity.
Anders Breivik is another white supremacist and terrorist. You're right...the link is not religion but their ideology is based on their race - so surely other white people should shout clearly and loudly, "Not in my name".
I certainly do (condemn this terrorist attack).
Do you?
And white supremacists have one thing in common...they're white. They share the same racial identity.
Anders Breivik is another white supremacist and terrorist. You're right...the link is not religion but their ideology is based on their race - so surely other white people should shout clearly and loudly, "Not in my name".
SP, Your question was about 'white people' - not about white supremacists - who, like Muslims, do have a common link. As far as I'm concerned the ideology of the white supremacist is not based on their race. I'm white and it isn't my ideology - nor, I'd hazard an educated guess, that of most other white people. To intimate otherwise is an insult.
naomi24
Ordinary white people to white supremacist is the same as ordinary Muslims to Islamic extremists.
Islamic extremists commit terrorist acts in support of their warped ideology - adherence to a doctrine where Islam is the dominant religion.
White supremacists commit terrorist acts in support of their warped ideology - adherence to a doctrine where white is the dominant race.
You wrote:
"the ideology of the white supremacist is not based on their race"
Not sure what you mean by that.
Also - I note you've yet to bring yourself to condemn this outrageous racist attack.
Ordinary white people to white supremacist is the same as ordinary Muslims to Islamic extremists.
Islamic extremists commit terrorist acts in support of their warped ideology - adherence to a doctrine where Islam is the dominant religion.
White supremacists commit terrorist acts in support of their warped ideology - adherence to a doctrine where white is the dominant race.
You wrote:
"the ideology of the white supremacist is not based on their race"
Not sure what you mean by that.
Also - I note you've yet to bring yourself to condemn this outrageous racist attack.
SP. // I note you've yet to bring yourself to condemn this outrageous racist attack. //
That really is a pretty disgusting implication, SP, but coming from you par for the course. Which bit of //My expectation would be that every right thinking person, regardless of creed or colour, would - and should - condemn this atrocity. // don't you understand?
That really is a pretty disgusting implication, SP, but coming from you par for the course. Which bit of //My expectation would be that every right thinking person, regardless of creed or colour, would - and should - condemn this atrocity. // don't you understand?
naomi24
Totally agree with you.
The implication [i]is[/i] disgusting.
It's as disgusting as believing that Muslims who don't immediately condemn terrorists attacks by Islamic extremists are giving their tacit approval.
But back to your earlier point...did I misunderstand you when you wrote:
"the ideology of the white supremacist is not based on their race"
and
[white supremacists] like Muslims, do have a common link.
Totally agree with you.
The implication [i]is[/i] disgusting.
It's as disgusting as believing that Muslims who don't immediately condemn terrorists attacks by Islamic extremists are giving their tacit approval.
But back to your earlier point...did I misunderstand you when you wrote:
"the ideology of the white supremacist is not based on their race"
and
[white supremacists] like Muslims, do have a common link.
TTT
No absolutely not.
In the same way that Muslim as not extremists simply because they're Muslims.
My point is - if Muslims have to vocally condemn terrorist attacks by Islamic extremists then white people should equally do the same when white extremists carry out terrorist attacks.
But I don't think that should be true at all. I don't think Muslims need to be saying "Not in my name" and I don't think that white people should do the same. I just wonder why Muslims are help to a higher standard?
No absolutely not.
In the same way that Muslim as not extremists simply because they're Muslims.
My point is - if Muslims have to vocally condemn terrorist attacks by Islamic extremists then white people should equally do the same when white extremists carry out terrorist attacks.
But I don't think that should be true at all. I don't think Muslims need to be saying "Not in my name" and I don't think that white people should do the same. I just wonder why Muslims are help to a higher standard?
Khandro
You’re asking a question that has little to with the point we’re discussing but here goes…if someone buys a gun and uses it to specifically kill black people whilst live-streaming the act on Twitch and who has posted his white supremacist doctrine online, then I’d go ahead and say yes - they’re a white supremacist.
What you’re referring to is what id call a racial purist.
Actually - thinking about it. I’m not sure.
You’re asking a question that has little to with the point we’re discussing but here goes…if someone buys a gun and uses it to specifically kill black people whilst live-streaming the act on Twitch and who has posted his white supremacist doctrine online, then I’d go ahead and say yes - they’re a white supremacist.
What you’re referring to is what id call a racial purist.
Actually - thinking about it. I’m not sure.
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